Tuesday, May 22, 2012

Lets hear it from the cheaters

tw  cheating sign You and Tiger Woods are CHEATERS


There are times that I have been blown out of the air with one shot or played against defense class planes that seem way too agile.  Most of us have heard that there are various hacks, cheats and cracks that have been made to MSWM such as:
  • unlimited coin hack
  • unlimited ammo
  • ability to alter your plane and make it perform better
  • ability to alter your weapons and blow up your opponent with one shot
This posting is directed to the players out there who are using these cheats.  Lets hear from you.  Don't worry, you can post anonymously.  We won't send the Z2Live police after you.  Lets have some discussion about your hacks and cheats with the rest of the community.

C'mon, you can do it.   Post a comment to tell us about your wayward behavior.



157 comments:

  1. I just want to know what fun is it if you know you are going to win by cheating?

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    1. they simply enjoy winning by that. In a nutshell, a mental sickness

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    2. They probably also enjoy the power they have over other people, like they are above everybody else

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    3. Excuse me. I do not have a mental sickness. I don't think I'm above anyone else. I do occasionally get my butt kicked as well.

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    4. No, you may not have a mental "sickness" as you call it, so you are probably just mental. Oh and if you don't think your so 'high and mighty', why do you cheat you stupid S.O.B

      --AaronJC56

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    5. How do you hack without cydia?

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  2. a week ago i was match up to player w/ SR 26584 (games played 784) he was using a hawken equip w/ lancer/valkyrie. and me using spectre, ive got pissed and frustrated coz i can't see him all the time. it seems that his hawken never got run out of energy and faster than my spectre in straight and cornering, so i stop chasing and look to my camera and found out his plane can boost up speed faster than a reaper and never stop spinning like its unlimited energy! ive got owned 6-0. my SR 28901 and played 4001 games and played most decent high SR player than me in a known clan of MsW. His plane is a different beast it feels like its been highy
    modified..

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    1. That guy is definitely a hacker, who just ruins this game. SR 26584 / 784 games means he's got 33,9 SR/game! Means he's won every game from the very beginning. That's just too good to be true! The next time you meet him, you should know what to do, make a nice photo of his SR & games and report him to Z2Live. Alone the ratio SR/games explains everything. That guy deserves a report!

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    2. check the game center leaderboardsf of All time... of msw, Look at rank #1 Darn to many numbers lol.....

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    3. Zi2Live should make cancel the account of these guys. I don't know if they could do more than what is currently done to prevent and fight hacking. But is Zi2Live fully aware of this issue?
      As your SR increases, you run into more and more of these suckers.

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    4. You're not quite correct but not too far off either. I'm getting bored of this game so I'll clarify to you the details. Gather around, kids, this is going to be a somewhat long one.

      Stats are evaluated server side so it's impossible to modify my Hawken's stats...though I did change one: the class. Doing so gave me access to the different upgrade trees and, once purchased, these upgrades remain activated even after the "class-change". Upgrade details are also stored server-side, but your device holds the key to which upgrades you have access to.

      Theoretically, you were wrong about the unlimited energy, though practically not since I did have +226% Energy and +17% Energy Regeneration. As for being faster, that's also true with total +45% Agility, +191% Acceleration and +92% Speed.

      What you probably didn't realise was that I also had +116% Armor, +7% Armor Regeneration, 47% DMG Reduction vs Cannons, 35% vs Missiles and +40% while manoeuvring. To top it off, I also had a tad extra, unnecessary firepower. You can do the math.

      In other words, not only could my super flying machine outgun any other plane, but it's also effectively untouchable, unshakeable, indestructable and downright incredible. So, how could it still be around?

      This could actually be done on any plane, but I chose the Hawken for two reasons, Firstly, it's common. Secondly, it's the least obvious - especially when firing missiles one after another. Therefore, it's not very distinguishable, and since there are no discrepancies on my side I'm guessing it's pretty hard for Z2 to tell that my app has been altered (actually, they'd be wrong if they did).

      Admit it, you're more jealous than angry at this point, amirite? Don't worry, I won't continue flying this beast much longer. For you curious pilots, I'll let you have the GC details if you set the following image as your display picture on Facebook/other social networking profile that you regularly use.
      http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101229223235/mlp/images/0/0b/Pinkie_Pie_shouting_PARTY_S1E02.png
      Set your account viewable to public and post it here, keep it that way for 1 week. No dud profiles.

      You won't need to alter anything on your device, since the server stores the data on which upgrades the Hawken has.

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    5. Thanks guy for these explanations. I admit it must be fun to give a shot to such a plane, but honestly I'm not jealous (nor angry by the way). The thing is that you spoil the fun of other players. And what is fun for you when winning a match with your plane?

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    6. I would think that it would get boring pretty quickly just destroying everyone - whats the point - its like stepping on ants on the sidewalk and feeling all full or yourself for it

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    7. I bet he has a little dick too.

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    8. I've been working on the same topic can you plz email me the exact txt you edited since there are 3 of each filename and thousands of them in the metalstorm folder ( ebbazouzou@gmail.com ) i really don't care about if it works or not and won't ruin you people's lifeless hours spent on that game i just need the file name ( i'm a programer and need their technique in organizing their in game intel )

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    9. Hi every one
      I did some modifications yesterday. I increased the speed to 9000 . Armor to 250% agility to 50 %
      Stealth to 100% and energy to 100 % with 15 regeneration. Missile reload to 200% that can fire continuosly . I couldnot play versus match cause the server would not allow all the plane i have played with are invinsible or not vissible since then. I want to get my original plane back but i can not undo the upgrade . Cause i spent alot of cins on thisplane . Any thoughts
      Thank u

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    10. I have also been trying to do this class change hack. My cousin and I have been trying to sort through all of the files and find which one to modify. We have been trying to create an ultimate plane to see exactly far we can get in the survival matches.

      I would never want to use the plane in a VS. match so if it won't work in versus matches that does not matter to me.

      PS I believe that it is almost impossible to un-upgrade a plane. I think your only option is to just not use that plane in versus matches or to get a new Game Center account.

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    11. I have also been trying to sort out the files for quite some time. I am sooooo curious how far the survival matches can go. So if it is too good to be allowed in versus matches I could care less.

      If someone has the modded files and instructions could they please email them to me.

      BigScreenEffects@gmail.com

      Thanks in advance!

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    12. My friend has 50,000 skill rating and about a 100 games.
      That means he gets about 500+ skill rating a game so thats means he is a hacker.


      Tim

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  3. Fantastic post Lugg !!! a very nice shot straight at the cheaters, though none of them are sayin anything :( , I'm dying to hear from them too, way too many times been blown outta da sky with 1 sidewinder !!!

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  4. I'm 1 such cheater but the only thing I hack is ammo. And I am using raam and standard cannon and there is no way to alter the planes ability as this is a server side game but it seems that it is not as planes can be hacked. It means that z2 does not even bother to adjust the game so that plane stats are received directly from the server.

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  5. The closest thing to cheating I did (past tense) was getting the one free coin from tapjoy every hour. That accounted to about 150 Bisnos or 450 Lancers each day.

    Now Tapjoy has removed this and now I'm lucky to get five coins a day watching those stupid commercials.

    **** tapjoy for doing that!

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    1. what do u mean "Tapjoy has removed this"? is it now impossible to get a free coin per hour?

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    2. I watch the videos, but I don't get the coin WTF

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    3. Update to my last comment, z2 was just a little behind, that's all. Got the coins the next day.

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  6. ts not cheating , if you consider that cheating ! well I did exactly what you did only difference is - I took that free coin every hour on all three of my devices - ipod, ipad and iphone all same apple ID all had MSW installed ( lol ) so hey I hope thats not considered cheating :-D

    *MESSAGE TO THE DUDE WHO POSTED ABOVE : If you want to get Bisnos at the price of 5 coins - for 150 ( Bisnovat missles ) - Make sure you always have 5 coins with you when you know the issles are gonn finish - Cos - if you finish the missles in a game - Then return to the main area - Note * - Vargas asks you to reload you ammo - " This 1 time you will be ofered Bisnovats at 5 coins - so dont miss it - :-D - what's important here is Never Never buy bisnovats twice in a row - i mean - spending 10 coins for 150 bisnos and you feel you have many coins so you wanna top up another 150 bisnos - ITS A CRYIN WASTE ! just go at a slow pace - you'll always get your biscuits ( bisnos ) at 5 coins - :-D - Have Fun !!!

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    1. Don't tell all the bisno spammers out there how to get cheaper weapons

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  7. Please reply. Who agrees that the F-41 Viper should be brought back? If you know how much it was for please answer that aswell. I read that this plane is ideal against those green bastards ( green eagle)
    The plane hides something which is unexplainable

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    1. I do not really agree with you. I don't like to meet Green Eagles, but flying this plane is not hacking. If the guy has bought it honestly, what can you say? It's probably boring for him too because it might not be funny to fly... And it is often easy to get a draw.
      I would never buy and upgrade the Viper if it was available. I don't think that Green Eagles represent a big issue, because I run into some of them only rarely. It's a totally different bargain for Bisnos, which are used by 50% of players (some of them being hackers).

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    2. i agree the viper is beast and it cost only 30 coins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  8. I love that plane because I have it and I played the green eagle. You are right. It's the best plane to use! I can't really remember the price since it was ages when I got it. I think it was 5000-6000 credits

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  9. I so want to get that plane! I am jelious. I am trying to get a very good plane for a very cheap price

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  10. How does it look?

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    1. http://metalstormforever.blogspot.com/2012/03/weapons-class-quick-reference-id-sheet.html#comment-form

      Thats the link - Look at Weapons Class - RIGHT handd row - 4 thplan from top

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    2. Jeez , my spelling errors ! - sorry bout that

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  11. It's the F-18 Super Hornet. This plane on MSW is an weapon class

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    1. The F-41 Viper is a F/A-18 Hornet not Super Hornet. The Super Hornet is longer, seats two and has stronger engines with square intakes (nitpicking I know, but there you go!)

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  12. Oh my daze. Again about the F-41 Viper. They are for saddos! I have the green eagle and never won a match against them. They are so powerfull. At least there is not much of them left. I always lost 3-0. They used the Phoenix missiles and Valkyrie against mr

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    1. Dude I was reading this and the vipers not for saddos it's the eagle (but believe me I want one :)!)

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    2. I meant if any things for saddos it's the eagle with its armor regen

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  13. Everyone could you text to Z2 live to re-continue the F-41 Viper to give the green eagle flyers a pay back time. I believe if instant and continues messaging on suuport at Z2live.com will force them to agree.

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  14. Don't be sad. This action will bring the best plane on the game to its end and will become worthless cause the viper is cheap and everyone will have one. So fuck off with that idea!

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    1. To late, unfortunately

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  15. Does the Viper have extra damage only for Green Eagle or for all planes? Are there other planes with hidden features? Come on, guys, tell it!

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  16. i hacked the game to make the price of blue coins $0.00 but that was a long time ago back in 3.1.0 but now they have updated their firewall and banned my old accounts but now their server isnt easy to crack so i just play fairly

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  17. many games were ruined after they become popular because of hack...

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    1. yeah... i played against a wraith that disappeared on my target lock. i could never lock on. when i lost i sent him a "friend request" that said "fudge you, you sonuva biscuit hacker! go lump of into your world of fake satisfaction!

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    2. Did he/she accept u?
      .:Arman92:.

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    3. I recently fought a hacker who beat me 6-3, and afterwards I friended him and said: go ramurguts up a pipe, you hack! (his game center name was ramgut) he was using basic weapons, and it took only 3 sidewinder hits to kill my hawken.
      --AaronJC56 wassup Arman92?

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  18. I have a viper and have no upgrades is it really worth the coins cuz if it is I'm gonna do it

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    1. Just Do it !
      if you regret after that - blame - Nike √ :-D

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    2. Can you/I add you as a friend on the game centre? I never played the viper. How much was it for exactly? My game centre name is 09Florovicj

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  19. Its getting really bad. I'd say about 50-75% of vs matches I play are against cheaters.

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    1. is there anyway to know for sure that were playing a "cheater" ?

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    2. Well if you have a good guess then check their skill level as skill level goes up cheaters are more likely

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  20. All the info on the box for the viper applies to all planes except the green eagle. Viper has extra damage only to the green eagle. Z2live made a mistake when doing the stats. That's the only reason why it was discontinued.

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  21. The viper is the only plane with a hidden feature. That's is the extra damage for the green eagle.

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  22. I found the price the viper was for!
    6500 credits!

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  23. What I like about the Viper is that's it's cheap and easily accessible for begginers which makes them be protected against the green eagle flyers if the hidden feature is true of course.

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  24. Like what someone said above, the closest thing I got to getting free coins silently is by exploit ting a free offer. You read the instructions and press back, and there is a free coin. Did this like about every 45 minutes. As of the latest version it's gone. It's the only reason why my Eagle-X is fully upgraded D:

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    1. Just use tapjoy!!!!!!

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  25. Anyone know how to obtain an unavailable plane like Viper or Saber? I'm not looking for coins or upgrade hacks, I'm ready to pay the regular plane price... Any idea?
    thx

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    1. Maybe...but unlikely

      The f-105 dragon according to z2 was discontinued. However, it has became a limited edition plane. The discontinued hurricane is now in the hanger too. Don't be to surprised if you see the saber on limited edition soon. The saber however, I've heard has extra damage for green eagles, so it probably is really discontinued like the green eagle

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  26. Discontinued planes are discontinued. If it wasn't featured it probably will never come back.

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  27. One thing i am sure that every cheater are losser in their real life. Thats why they cheating and acting god in virtual world. fitty!!

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  28. lets go back to the topic ppl!

    Qoute:

    Stats are evaluated server side so it's impossible to modify my Hawken's stats...though I did change one: the class. Doing so gave me access to the different upgrade trees and, once purchased, these upgrades remain activated even after the "class-change". Upgrade details are also stored server-side, but your device holds the key to which upgrades you have access to.

    Theoretically, you were wrong about the unlimited energy, though practically not since I did have +226% Energy and +17% Energy Regeneration. As for being faster, that's also true with total +45% Agility, +191% Acceleration and +92% Speed.

    What you probably didn't realise was that I also had +116% Armor, +7% Armor Regeneration, 47% DMG Reduction vs Cannons, 35% vs Missiles and +40% while manoeuvring. To top it off, I also had a tad extra, unnecessary firepower. You can do the math.

    In other words, not only could my super flying machine outgun any other plane, but it's also effectively untouchable, unshakeable, indestructable and downright incredible. So, how could it still be around? quote:

    What tools did you used to modify your HAWKEN? im curious what kind of class is your hawken now? hmmm.. maybe (wepagile class?) hell maybe a combination of defense+weapon+agility. would it be possible if you take screen shots of the upgrade tree?

    Your F-51 HAWKEN stats

    +226% Energy
    +17% Energy Regeneration
    +45% Agility
    +191% Acceleration
    +92% Speed.
    +116% Armor
    +7% Armor Regeneration
    +47% DMG Reduction vs Cannons
    +35% vs Missiles
    +40% manoeuvring

    Forget the green eagle and viper this is the plane you guys want...
    its called the SUPER MIGHTY POWER HAWKEN.

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    1. The man (I don't want to humiliate him here by calling him cheater) has clearly said he's changed the class of his Hawken. That makes his Hawken not a weapon class anymore, but a 3-in-1 class. +226% Energy and +17% Energy Regeneration is literally unlimited Energy.

      To tell the truth, I don't want such a Super Mighty Power Plane. With that kind of plane, all you have to do is keep your plane from crashing. You just can't show your skill over other player, unless your opponent flies that too. I think the most of people don't want such plane either.

      I have some question to The Man:

      - Is the 3-in-1 manipulation the only method currently? Or are there variations?
      - Have you met a pro with Annihilator + Standard while you fly your 3-in-1 plane? Result?
      - Have you met opponent with the same 3-in-1 plane? Result?
      - With that kind of plane the win is for sure. Have you ever got a tie or even a defeat while flying 3-in-1 Hawken?

      PS. I don't quite understand how on earth Z2Live could let such a thing possible, a plane with 3 upgrade trees! Don't they ever check the plane stats before let the dogfight begin? That can be easily done by programming!

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    2. I think it's one of the rarer hacks, I don't think you really want me to reveal the method here. I'm not even sure it works anymore since I haven't tweaked anything since a while before 4.1.1.

      My Hawken is a weapons class plane, just like a regular Hawken if you discount the upgrades. The class changes were temporary, just so I could bring up the different upgrade trees when I go to the Tech Upgrades tab. I didn't risk leaving it as Agility/Defense class since it might show an anomaly to opponents/wingmen.

      To be honest, flying it in versus was a bit less fun than a clean match, but it was still kinda thrilling seeing it "grow". That was probably the best part about it. The upgrades weren't free, by the way, I had to spend the required credits and coins for every single upgrade in each tree. Didn't need to hack anything for that though, the hourly Tapjoy coins were enough.

      @Vinh, in order:
      - No, there are variations, but I've never tried them
      - Yes. What do you think?
      - Maybe? Hard to tell what hacks other people are using sometimes
      - Yes. I've been downed abnormally quickly at times. One time someone managed to hit me continuously and consistently with barrage of cannon fire and invisible missiles from impossible angles, I might as well be a stationary target on their screen.

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    3. Check out the forums on:
      Metalstormwingman.com
      Go on forums and then feedback/suggestions and then go on the thing where it says:
      F-41 Viper should it be re-continued?
      Help me to get the Viper back. Z2Live uses that site to get ideas from the public to improve MSW.

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    4. Thanks for your reply, man!

      So there are another manipulation methods, can you describe them for us here? (not how to achieve them, but what kind of them for example). And did you find out the way to 3-in-1 upgrade or you learned from sb else?

      Against your 3-in-1 Hawken, I think even a pro with Annihilator would be a sitting duck for you. But that gets you boring faster, right?

      Can you explain more about "a clean match"? What do you mean exactly? And about "seeing it 'grow'" too please.

      How many waves of enemy planes can you deal with your 3-in-1 Hawken? Is the Hawken the only plane or you have another with 3-in-1 upgrade too?

      About the time you've been downed quickly. Was it just a lag of connection or a new manipulation way, like "freeze your enemy" method?

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    5. How exactly do you do these hacks .......
      I WANT TO KNOW!!!!!!!

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  29. Harken is very over used plane. Nothing special about that plane. All you need is an agility plane with sidewinder and Vulcan to shoot him down. Rest of the match the agility class plane will be behind your ass taking life of you and you will not shake him of.

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  30. You look more Coll with the viper because it's so rare people just get amazed over it.

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  31. Viper is so rare its rarer than the green eagle! If you hate agility class but want weapon with the same shape as the Rath, you are after the Viper.

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    1. i have the viper it is a good plane but nothing compared to the eaglex

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  32. Do not change the conversation. Keep it on the viper topic. Who wants to waste time talking about the bastard who have no life and purpose and have nothing. Why bother?! All they are is an human waste. They are more useless than hobbos because hobbos do nothing while hackers do the bad which is worser than being a hobo. Why are we even talking about tramps. If you wanna see an hacker it's the picture on the top.

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  33. Marauder re released! Added to the normal catalogue for 68000 coins

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  34. So what if the 1 coin an hour glitch isnt their anymore??? You guys are stupid, If you get a tapjoy account, you can download free apps and get 5-25 coins for free each time. THIS GETS ME 150 COINS PER DAY. jeez ppl ur so stupid

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  35. I was so annoyed after I played against a Wraith that warped around the sky and couldn't be hit, it also didn't help that after I shot it with something around 10 RAAMs it still wasn't destroyed. Also the timer for the game kept reverting back a few seconds so that every time it got close to the two minute mark it would move back; for instance just as the timer would read 2:00 it would change back to 2:10, and the match lasted far longer than it should have. Lastly, when my opponent ended the game while the score was 0-0 it said that my opponent won 1-0 when I was never destroyed and my SR dropped 12 points.

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    1. I think that is just a glitch. I have seen that a few times. I would shoot the opposite direction of the plane and my opponent would blow up, time moved back, then forward, then back again.

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  36. He is a hacker. The hack exists but it's rare. I can do it but it just ruins the game. I wouldn't do it because I should be setting an example. I am part of the N.S.F
    Noble Strike Force.

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    1. i was just wondering, how do you guys know this stuff? do you like look up the game files or something? did
      you find it on some website?

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  37. The guy who started the N.S.F was takao the first guy to play this game. He's highly respected and his like my boss. He knows all the hacks. But he doesn't use them.

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    1. You are in [N.S.F] ?

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  38. Stupid spelling check! No Takao I meant "was the first guy"

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  39. [vfs]archer dont play with this guy..he seem to dodge all the bisnos i unleashed againts him/her...And all he has is sidewinder and 20mm vulcan...

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  40. coz his better than u period! did he spank u so bad?
    i know how u fell, u get embarass right? shame on u for using bisNOOBat and u can't even shoot him down.. was he using mako/c101?

    BTW, all agility plane can dodge ur fancy BISNOOBAT!

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  41. I have played a couple people that had bisvonats but I have been able to dodge the missiles as easy as sidewinders and don't inflict much damage.
    Why would somebody using sidewinders change the picture before the match to bisnos? P.S. also happens for cannons and the pictures change back to sidewinders and Vulcan. (bisnos and Zeus to sidewinder and Vulcan)

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  42. when I play against a cheater, I just do nothing, I sit and don't fire a single shot. I will concead 2 points but i won't waist any ammo or give the cheater any form of entertainment. If they think it's cool shooting at a dead target, then let them. The funny thing is you can actually see how skillful they really are, it's amusing to see them miss over and over again. Hey maybe they really need all the help they can get.

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    1. I completely agree. I mean, I'm not going to waste good missiles that I paid for on an indestructible plane!

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  43. I have been playing this game for awhile now. Spent a lot of money too. Its been fun but if Z2 wants to continue taking my money they need to fix the cheating issue. Hyper agile defense and weapons class planes, impossibly fast missile locks for plane class, one hit sidewinder kills, ive seen it all. I know what each plane can do because, well, i own and hsve flown just about every plane they offer. But no more, i dont mind paying money because i have money, but if they dont fix the cheat issue then screw it im uninstalling and never buying from them again.

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  44. I have been playing this game for awhile now. Spent a lot of money too. Its been fun but if Z2 wants to continue taking my money they need to fix the cheating issue. Hyper agile defense and weapons class planes, impossibly fast missile locks for plane class, one hit sidewinder kills, ive seen it all. I know what each plane can do because, well, i own and hsve flown just about every plane they offer. But no more, i dont mind paying money because i have money, but if they dont fix the cheat issue then screw it im uninstalling and never buying from them again.

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  45. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003836745506

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  46. Why the tap joy stop the one hour blue coin is it started again in future or not

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  47. Why dont we buy a lawyer and ask refund cause we are stressing z2live did not fix cheating issue. Is there any hero who can do any law acting?

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  48. How do you unlock the Green Eagle? There must be a hack for that.

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  49. How DO I HACK THIS GAME!!!!!!!!

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  50. I played against a guy who had a skill rating of about 650 and was using a bobcat with standard weapons. As it turned out, despite a lock and the use of rams, all of my missiles seemed to miss. On top of that, he blew up my fully upgraded hawken with 1 shot, but luckily I was able to dodge some of the shots. I don't know what the missile thing was all about, but it was really effective. The match ended 5-1 (I got close enough to kill him with my cannons).

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  51. Darrell.Allen@live.comJune 2, 2012 at 1:10 AM

    I have a serious problem with EAGLE EYE in VERSUS MODE ... if you don't want to dogfight - don't do VERSUS MODE !!! if you want to 'float around' get a kiddie pool !!! I don't mind losing if it's a REAL FIGHT ! I deserve it - but if you don't want to fly - then don't !!! THIS IS fluffy !!!

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  52. Darrell.Allen@live.comJune 2, 2012 at 1:24 AM

    as a side note ...
    I cannot believe how many 'anonymous' entries there are ... wow ... sad

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    1. It's just easier to to chose that option from the drop down box. I have no idea what the other options mean, and I bet I'm not the only one.

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    2. You can choose "name/url" from the dropdown and enter any name you like. Not too sure what the "url" field does...
      I'm always either "Sporillium" or "Angry Sporillium" (when I can remember to use it, I use it when I'm reprimanding the morons who hang around here to display their logicless and contradictory opinions).

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  53. I played against a cheater with aim-24, that is right ? The red and black missiles, and won, I had an iorn fang, and one of these hit me in about 4 seconds, but I respawned behind him twice, and used turn and burn to finish him off, did this 2 times, ha, so satisfying!
    Results: me: iorn fang, sidewinders and Vulcan

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  54. - hit wrong button
    Continued: 2-1 vs hacked juggernaut, aim 24 and vulcan

    Yay!

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  55. Hackers and cheaters realy screw up the game for the rest. But z2 don't give à ....
    I personly don't buy blue coins anymore because off it.

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  56. Hackers f you all. Hope z2 Will banned you're acc. And the work you do for you're SR will be for nothing.

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  57. Come on! I never cheated and shot a lot of planes sometimes in really exciting duels, sometimes while people where sleeping in the cockpit, calibrating, or just plain in the line of fire with inferior aircraft or weapons. And I've been shot pretty soon a lot of times as well... I don't think a lot of people cheat.

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  58. i started playing this game using tapjoy. got fully upgraded annihilator, hawken, thresher without spending a cent. even had some left over for bisnos (i would load and only use cannons if other player didn't have coin missiles).
    at one point i was having so much fun i thought it was fair enough they made some money out of me, so spent over $100, largely for plane collection purposes. (i still mostly fly the thresher.)
    but i will never spend a dime on anything z2 puts out ever again, because they're being complete fuckwits about the cheating. how about devoting resources to stamp this out, instead of wasting time flogging ugly overpriced planes designed largely to take advantage of people who don't know better?
    but why am i even bothering? the z2 fuckwits don't give a shit.

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  59. Z2 loves the cheaters. They make people buy bisnos and every new plane that comes around, even the ice wolf, which is outright thievery. I only play with people I know. Which is too bad, because this was great for meeting fellow gamers online.

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  60. USN "Ruptered Duck" is a poor player. I blew him out of the sky when I was flying Widow with bisnos//apollo. If he represents any kind of clan, he isn't representing them well at all.

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    1. As I have left out the reason why I feel he is a poor player, he was talking about some kind of "RKTS?" cheats or hacks. Sometimes people need to own up to the fact that they are -not- the best player. I get blown away by Threshers now and then (I have a more difficult time with thresher's over reapers), but I don't cry hax at the first available minute. Ask the other player how they got well, or what you did wrong. That's how I improved.

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  61. People how cheat. Are losers
    I don't buy blue Coins anymore because off it

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    1. This kind of logic doesn't make too much sense. What does Z2 need to fight hackers? Good programmers. To get good programmers, they need money. To get money, they need their players to buy coins. Therefore it is up to us to swallow our pride and buy a few coins, and in doing so help Z2 to make the next update much less hackable.

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    2. That logic is flawed too, though. All Z2 needs to fight hackers is some willingness to take risks. If they can get rid of the hackers, then their revenues will increase dramatically. They need to spend some of their precious cash, THEN reap the benefits, and we'll all be happier for it.

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  62. Just played against someone named Wethacker in Vs mode, he was flying a Hawken and I my Reaper (his skill rating was about 2500, mine's about 2000). Surprisingly, he wasn't a hacker at all, as far as I could tell, and I won the match 1-0. Still, it seems to be asking for trouble to put "hacker" in your name.

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  63. To be honest, the hackers don't really bother me as much as the amount of lag in this game. Sure, some self-entitled hacker may win a few matches, but you can move on from that without a huge impact on your SR. Lag, however, is a different story. I've had missiles and planes jumping about the sky, missiles that I dodged seconds ago exploding and still damaging me, and opponents exploding several seconds after recieving a fatal hit. Any game will always have hackers, it's a given. Any code can be broken, any barrier can be circumvented. For this reason, the hacker problem is an understandable one. The lag problem, however, is not, and just goes to show how Z2 cares nothing about players, only about money. With all of these exorbitantly expensive aircraft in the game, is it too much to ask for fast servers capable of handling the number of players that this game has? Experiencing server lag is like being hacked by Z2. It is wholly unfair, and makes versus matches much, much less fun. I play this game to fight fairly, but fighting in server-lagged glitchspace is like trying to fight in a tornado, with spontaneous wind pockets blasting things every which way. Something must be done about this if Z2 ever hopes to earn a penny from me.

    [Here ends epic rant. Thank you for your patience.]

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    1. I thought about this a little more, and I recind that last statement. Lag is annoying, and I still think it's more annoying than hackers, but Z2 DID give us all this game for free, so I suppose I'm being extremely selfish by demanding fast servers. I may still purchase a small amount of coins if at some point I need more points than Tapjoy will give me. Obviously, Z2 could use the money. My apologies to Z2 and anyone else who may have taken offense at my epic rant (which, coincidentally, was delivered after I lost a versus match to someone with bisnos due to huge lag). I will try to use more discretion in the future.

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    2. Wow, bro. Very very very much respect for your first post. You said it so amazingly well that a reply with congratulations was a must. It was like reading the words of a fairly angry poet. no one will never be able to express what you wrote there better. About you secont post... well that has disappointed me quite much, because you were so right with your first post, don't let the kindness take you, you are angry for a fair reason. By the way if you were so gentle to give me your GC nickname, we can do some friendly matches with our FA-119 Reapers. Oh, and thank you for your you answer about that fantastic aircraft.

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    3. Thank you for your complements, Skyraza. At the point of writing those posts, I wasn't quite sure where I stood on the issue, but then the new update came out and INCREASED the lag, and I now am pretty sure that my position is more towards the first post. It is true that we got the game for free, but it wasn't exactly free was it? What we have is a game which is unparalleled by any other on the app store, but has enough major flaws to be really frustrating. It's like a really awesome song that you love, but you can't really hear it to its fullest because some stupid sound engineer put the wrong drum track over top of it at double volume. The song WAS free, monetarily, but expensive in the amount of frustration it causes you. You can't stop listening to it because you love it, but the bad drum track gets on your nerves all the time, and the sound file is of some weird type that no sound editor will touch, so you can't remove the bad drums yourself. This is an example of a rather contemptible song, and is a metaphor for a rather contemptible game. So go with my first post, disregard my second one, and pay particular attention to this one. Z2 is STILL behaving contemptibly by letting this lag happen, and hackers are STILL secondary in the list of problems. They need to fire that bad sound engineer and release a new version of their song with no wrong drum line. I won't pay them a cent until they do so. I think they need to take a little risk as a business, to spend some money to fix the lag and THEN reap the benefits, in that order.

      My GC nickname is Sporillium with a little lightning bolt in front of it. Also, I've switched to the Thresher because the Evasion boost seems to help counteract all that laggy missile BS, but I'll probably switch back to the Reaper as soon as Z2 grows a pair and takes the risk necessary to fix the lag issues.

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    4. ...I really write novels compared to the vast majority of people on this site, don't I?
      XD

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    5. And not to flood this with comments, but one more thought: What if they paid less for graphics designers and such to build new planes and paid more for good servers? I'm sure all of us would be happier if we had less lag EVEN IF it meant not getting another new plane for a year or more. Making a plane-du-jour has to be an expensive thing to keep doing, and I think we'd all agree that money would be much better spent on servers than ultra-expensive planes that no one even buys anyway.

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    6. Hey, mate. Have you ever thought to write some poems? You'd get so much money to buy Z2Live Inc. :-). Congratulations again for the very nice metaphor: this is talking! There is nothing you said wrong. By the way, I'm gonna send you a request within some minutes. Sorry for my late to reply to all of your messages.

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  64. I have went against various cheaters who have high damage and unlimited health
    I just try to survive and have a tie 0-0

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  65. I just won against a terrible guy with a hacked cobalt 1-0 I had a upgraded arbiter I had to hit him with like 25sidewinders

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  66. i hack and i cheat the game and have unlimited bisnos and zeus its fun and im best player in MSW i have best skill rating. eat that im best player by far.

    I have unlimited coins hack too and every plane i see i buy

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    1. This statement is contradictory. You say you 'hack and cheat the game' but you also say that you are 'the best player by far'. Remember, hacking a game and being good at it are mutually exclusive. I doubt very, very much that you have any real skill at all in this game, rather, you simply fly around in your hacked-out aircraft and blow up skilled players despite anything they can possibly do. Remember, 'Skill Rating' is not a measure of skill at all, it is simply a numerical expression of how often you win. Also, remember that the main point of skill over hacking and better missiles is the respect you command for being a skilled player. Hacking is properly reprehensible; using bisnovats only slightly less so. In using both hacking and bisnovats, you command basically no respect among the players of this game. I find it rather irksome, then, that you come here to gloat about how 'good' you are, when really, you are among the worst players in this game. Remember that before you gloat about your false skill again, and consider refraining from hacking any other games you may play.

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    2. dude, please tell me you game center nickname isn't lensfarmic! i'm friends with him on metalstorm!

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  67. sporlium your worst player

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    1. I may not have the best skills, I may not fly the best plane, and I may not use the best missiles, but I do not hack the game and I do have a measurable amount of skill, so I do not believe myself to be the worst player. If you have reasoning to back up your claim, let me know.

      (Of course, I don't play MSWM anymore. I'd love to see you on SGAS, though. It's more of a skill-favoring game)

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  68. Hey cheaters, how do you re-skin your planes, please repley! I'm desprate!

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  69. Just played a guy flying a invisible plane with invisible missiles me in a hawken/raams.goes by the name of Cpt MT. Is this a new hack or really bad lag. My red arrow never showed in the match. Couldn't get a lock ever on him. Just put on the afterburner and dove behind a mountain until time ran out. Sent him a nice message thru friend request lol.

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  70. Fought against a guy, don't know if it was lag or hack that blew my wraith up with aim 54 in one shot. I have armor upgrades too.

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  71. I was doing a co op survivor and my random co op helper had a dragon, and he seemed invincible. He got to level 21. Well, I died at like level 15, but I stayed spectating to level 21, then I just quit.

    That guy, seemed to not be destroyed by missiles. He seemed to have unlimited ammo and energy. I wonder if he was cheating.

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  72. not really, I had the same thing happen to me.
    I was the one flying the Dragon, and I made it to level 22. I don't cheat, and I did have alot of ammo. Fully upgraded, the Dragon has a very respectable missile reload.

    BTW, what was the GC nickname of the person you fought? It might have been me. (under a different GC)

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  73. i just want to a ask question from you guys,is there any such planes which can disappear and in the next movement appear in different location without even flying to that place.Because in recent times times i have to defend myself against some of these disappearing type of planes.So by this way it becomes almost impossible lock on them.

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    1. That is caused by the game companies computers being too slow and can't keep up with all the games being played. It is called lag.

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  74. DOWN WITH THE HACKERS!!!!!!!!!! i have been looking for a fair match for 2 months now! when the internet thinks it found a fair match, the missiles miss, but i still get damage!!! where's the fun in it if you hack!BAN HACKERS FOR GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. The missiles-miss-but-still-hit thing is definitely lag, but I'm pretty sure that qualifies as being hacked by Z2 at this point. It's gotten pretty ridiculous.

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  75. to kind of quote gollum from "gollum wins an award,
    "frankly, nothing can copinsate for the lies and low awards, and miserable experience we've had dealing with these ****in' hackers! And all you hackers, who do you think you are screwed smeg heads?! shame on you! shame on you! go smeg yourself! and if you think, that a simple apology, is gonna REMOTELY make up for everything we've suffered, you sadly ****in', mistaken! YOUR ALL SMEG HEADS! METALSTORM HACKERS, SUCK! WE HATE YOU ALL! good night.

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  76. To all sore losers who keep sending me "you cheat" friend requests:

    When my SR was 1K, all I knew was to flip or circle while braking and following the arrow, and I thought 70% of players were cheaters, but I kept learning...

    When my SR was 5K, I thought all 10K+ players were cheaters, but I kept learning...

    Now my SR is 20K+, I am still learning, and now I know that these players were not cheaters, they were simply better. Now I am regularly called a cheater... because I regularly kill coin noobs with RAAMs.

    So, stop your silly whining, learn to fly, and don't play over slow/mobile connections: 99% of UFO-like jumps are not cheaters, but your network lag, or Z2 server hiccups.

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    1. Yeah, I'll agree with that. It gets pretty old when people instantly go "OH MAI GAHD HAX AND CHEAST AND HOARABAL EEVLE!!!1!!1!1!" when they see you and your missiles jumping everywhere. I kinda don't think that it's the fault of whoever is on a slower connection though, because my friend and I once played at her house on a 200-or-so MBPS connection, and we still hit horrible lag. It kinda makes sense, since there are so many players all trying to play on rented Amazon servers which aren't quite up to the task.

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  77. I played agenst someone with a C-101 and it took like forever to take it down.

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  78. I’d like to this up bring in a slightly different light and get some of your opinions. For background, my name is rabbit.on.the.moon, I fly the Reaper 95% of the time. My SR is somewhere around 36000 at the time of writing this.

    What I have found troubling lately is that several people per week will accuse me of cheating. Now let me tell you I am no computer wizard, and I truly wouldn’t even know how to cheat (let alone find any point in doing so). There is even a youtube video of someone beating me, (he got lucky of course :). In fact, I am still not totally convinced there are cheaters out there (in any large numbers anyway). In all the games I’ve played… which is far too many at this point- I can honestly say I’ve only come across maybe 2-4 games where I was totally SURE that the opponent was cheating. This was usually because they were able to do things that were beyond any connection lag/glitchy stuff that happens on MetalStorm – and can make it seem that the opponent is cheating when they are not. These people could shoot almost endless missiles or I shot them with endless missiles and they never died. Oh, and ALL of them were Chinese by the way.

    I guess one of the things I’m wondering is, do people accuse you guys of cheating too?? --when you are simply beating them??

    I think a lot of this comes from dodging their hard-earned Bisno’s. For some reason they think that it isn’t possible in this game. Now I know the first time I played a highly skilled Reaper… I thought, “No F---ing way!! You can’t dodge missiles like that!!” But **NEWS FLASH** You can!!! If you are a skilled player, almost any plane (obviously some -the Reaper- more than others) can dodge missiles, even bitchno’s. I guess I just find it bull-shit that it took me a long time before I learned how to do all these things to become a skilled player, and now I get accused of cheating! Maybe it’s just our Obama-society (no I won’t go there), maybe it’s a bad connection, but maybe noobies need to look at skilled players and learn from them (like I did) instead of call them cheaters .

    Thanks for letting me vent,

    rabbit.on.the.moon

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  79. honestly, even some minor hackers have a hard time. i have unlimited missles and ammo, always win matches when my skill rating is below 5k. once i modified my skill rating to 45000 (max is 50000). i get paired up with other hackers using that super hawken with all tech upgrades. well i lose. having unlimited missles and ammo isn't useful against those players. the problem only starts when your skill rating is high enough to get you matched up with these type of people.

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  80. Hello Z2, I know this message would probably fall on deaf ears, And I'm pretty sure you've gotten millions of other complaints About this very big problem... The Infamous "spawning Position". You know, I'm quite sure Your company's probally Rolling in More than enough money, That you could probably fix this problem in one day! Understand my situation, I am a disabled man, Who Recently started playing your game, And I freaking love it! It's the only game and all I have for my entertainment. Unlike some of the other players, I have to pay for my credit and coins, As I don't have the time nor energy to collect them From playing. In verses, I'm usually dead before the game even starts! Because of having my opponents spawn behind me, Every single time! And it's starting to get very frustrating. I am a Wheelchair user (quadriplegic) Which means I'm paralyzed from the chest down and have limited use of my hands. So, Between trying to get my crippled hands on my iPhone in position To fight, My opponent has already put two or three missiles in my back. I hate to come here and whine... But I am not the only one complaining as you already know. Z2, If you really Have a heart, care About your business or better yet the players, Then please fix this! And please Weed-out All of the damn hackers, They are really ruining this nice game. Most of the hackers seem to be playing from China... With unlimited ammo And can't die! I thought this was supposed to be the new Z2 5.0? Z2, You would recrute millions of new players and Keep the current players intact, If you would fix that amongst other things. It would be gladly appreciated it if you could fix that thanks For your time.

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  81. I wouldn't be surprized, if some of the hackers, were actually "Z2 employees" themselves.... Seriously, think about it, who else besides the hackers, would know best how to manipulate the game? And getting paid to cheat too! While laughing their asses off, at us, while we complain to them about all the fucking BS, "decent players" have to put up with! And "Z2" Continuously; keeps screwing us even more with "no vaseline" for those fucking bullshit coins!! Some of you may not have even thought about it, or maybe you're just too damn "Rich" to give a shit... But i believe it's a valid accusation, (imo) that should be looked into. Dunno who though, (game cops?!?).....

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  82. What the ******** this ******* arbiter out circles my marauder? This is ssooooooo cheating

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  83. I am a 60 SR and win most of my versus matches. At my level, I run into many cheaters. Agility aircraft that have almost twice the speed and acceleration of a stock plane. Weapons class planes that destroy you as soon as you spawn with one missile and a short gun burst. I have learned how their planes behave, and have found ways to defeat them in spite of their superior speed and damage settings. Nothing makes a cheater more furious than to have a stock plane beat them. And most of the cheaters show that they are Chinese. We should all boycott play with anyone with Chinese symbols, so that the only players they can find in a versus match is another cheater.

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    1. I know exactly what you mean! - I absolutely do not ever play anyone with "asian characters or strange characters" for usernames... one thing about hackers, they give their "secrecy" very easily, just by their usernames. dumbasses :/

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  84. Can somebody explain this? (1). A player disconnecting after they have been killed once or twice, leaving you with a -12 point loss. (2). Beating a player with a high SR, and only receiving +5 points, instead of +25 points! (3). Getting killed by one RAAM with one hit! (4). players with invincibility-like hitting them with 7 or 8 bisnos before they're killed! (5). defense class or even sometimes weapons class planes moving with "lightning speed", example: dragons flying like reapers! -- and one time i was playing against a player from "china", and i don't know what he did, but in the middle of the match, the screen just turns into "night mode" like on survival, then a third plane came out of no where, that could not be killed, no matter how many bisnos me and the chinaman hit it with! - that was the most surreal and strangest thing I have ever seen while playing this game!!

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  85. Warning: There's a new hack being used. and you know it's hackers! it happens in verses, when you are getting the best of them, and all of sudden they "freeze the screen up" basically a high-powered lag switch - and when the scren comes back, you're dead or almost dead! and while the screen is like that, you can see your health status being dwindled down!!

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  86. Hackers: You'll know you're playing against one, because they don't have a "mic" on their mini profile while playing them. a "normal player" always has a "mic" so you can converse with them. hackers NEVER do!! so, watch out for that warning sign. whenever i notice that, i just disconnect, so what, i'll let them have their "little -2 points", because you ain't going to win anyway!! OH - and i've also notice "invisible players" at the beginning of a match... for about 10-15 seconds, they're invisible, and fuck you up from behind, better watch out!!!

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