Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Y-08 Cyclops also added while I've been gone



Z2 just keeps on cranking out these planes. I just found out that the Cyclops was also added last week while I've been out. Let's take a look:

Agility 14%: Best in class. This will be best in class and 4% greater agility than Hawken and Widow.

Critical Strike 5%: A useful, although random feature.

Evasion 14%: This is pretty big. second weapons class plane to add evasion, and it's at a whopping 14%!

Lock Speed 6%: A decent boost in lock speed. In middle of class, but good.

Overall, with best agility and evasion in class, this will be a very hard weapons class plane to hit with missiles. The agility will also give it a strong edge in close engagements with other weapons class planes and even challenge agility class planes. Overall, a strong addition to the fleet.

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    1. ��_�� how could you!?! Lol just a joke

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  2. 1st weapons class to add evasion was the E-41 Cobalt with 6% evasion.

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    1. True. You just found out, Lugg? Maybe you read my comment on the last post ;-).

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  3. Guys.. He did amazing work.. Mor El

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  4. I'm not convinced on the usefulness of the Evasion boost for my play style. Usually when I'm in a weapons plane I like to fire as many times as possible in long-range missile engagements, not veer off and put more effort into dodging than aiming. The reduction in the opponent's missile tracking won't mean much then.

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  5. Why does the first commenter never actually post anything except 'first:)'?????

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  6. This plane has a bad cannon aimer recticle thing it's more higher then other planes

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  7. Hey Z2 I'll pay for the same game that doesn't have those launch up apps!!

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  8. Dear pilots, need comments and feedback. I've always been an agility pilot with a fully upgraded d-21. I'm considering upgrading to a better plane. Would you recommend the dragon or a hawken? Or is ms going release some new planes soon again? Just based on the dragon and hawken. Which a better buy? Really appreciate everyone's feedback. The dragon is expensive but rare. The hawken common but which is worth?

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    1. Both, if you want interesting matches with probable wins or losses (I mean that draws are not so frequent with weapons class), then go for the hawken, while if you just want your SR to grow with draws, go for the dragon. I'd go for the Dragon first while it is featured and then buy the hawken which is always available. If you like Agi planes and you have at least 317 coins, you should really consider the Reaper.
      Hope I helped.

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  9. You're agility class so you should stay with agility class I would recommend to upgrade to Marauder or Thresher because they are the good evading planes plus the cost credits but Thresger seems more sensible for 22,500 credits
    Marauder is flipping 68,000 credits

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    1. If its just between dragon & the hawken? Which is a better choice?

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    2. Hawken because you will not be used to the slowness of the Dragon and it is an unfair plane for versus. If you want to get some good scores in survival, buy the Dragon. But I recommend the Hawken for versus.

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    3. Considering the value for money, which would you recommend ? Like to swift brush through campaign also. I have just enough to buy a dragon. But if I get the hawken, I got money to spare for upgrades. But considering the dragon is rare.......

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    4. Get the hawken. It's easier to earn credits using the hawnken in versus to buy dragon when it comes out again.

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    5. If you are the same anonymous who asked first about hawken vs dragon, did you see my reply to you above? You kept asking as I already gave you an answer... About last anonymous comment, it is better vice-versa: buy the Dragon and do great survival to earn fast credits to buy the Hawken.

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    6. Versus earns skill rating :p and survival gets boring after awhile :/

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    7. So many anonymous. I'm the first poster. I'm really tempted to get the dragon. But.... It's cost. I can't afford upgrades. On the hand the hawken. Any news on the red widow returning?

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    8. Campaign isn't really a good place for defense class... Slow firing missiles.... Perhaps you can only complete the mission but can't earn those rewards...

      For Hawken, agile, good. Nice damage. Cool for versus and survial AND campaign.
      For Dragon, armor, good. Nice armor regen. Excellent for survial ONLY. You will get cursed for bringing it to versus. Trust me.

      If you bring on the dragon to versus mode, or, any other defense class... too slow for aiming... too slow firing speed... You can't kill at all... AND, you die easily under coin weapons becoz you can't dodge at all with that snail speed. Only taking damages and hope to survive through the match.

      If you're going after SR in versus OR score/credit in survival, get dragon
      If you're going after credit in versus OR reward in campaign OR score in survival, get hawken

      BUT... if you're still tempted... just get hawken and ignore dragon... you won't need a defense class much except survival...

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    9. There is ba very good DEFENSE plane for all the three modes and surprisigly more than all in versus, it is called R-94 Achilles: some time ago I was versing a guy using MDBA Meteors and no one of them was able to reach me because of its speed with its evasion.

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    10. Ask Ryan Lin if that aircraft isn't a beast.

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  10. Is there any news yet about coming planes?

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    1. Incarnations of the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 and the Republic F-105 Thunderchief are lurking below the horizon line. For snapshots see:
      http://tinyurl.com/d485rx8
      http://tinyurl.com/cg7sfvk

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    2. @Avigator, what thought to be plane based on MiG-21, is actually based on J-7. It'll be out .... next weekend.

      Check the post about GP-87 Warlock below.

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  11. Has anyone yet tried to find if there is international trick for this new update?
    I didn't think of it till now

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    1. I arrived trying untill english--> special chinese administrative region (or something similar). I will continue in about an hour.

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    2. Do you remember to shut off the MSW app in multitasking bar before reopen it? Otherwise the region change won't be applied.

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    3. Of course I know. By the way I only need to finish with Spanish regions. With the last version, some people claimed to know the trick and a guy said that the region change wasn't needed, instead the calendar change was, but it was just a part. If someone knows the trick for the previous version, can please post it here as a reply to support me searching for a new one for this version? Thanks.

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  12. The Cyclops is modeled after the real-life EA-6B Prowler, which is an electronics-warfare aircraft designed to jam and destroy radar sources. Here's a wiki page about it:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_EA-6B_Prowler

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  13. 14% agility and evasion is sooooo OP!

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  14. But the Dragon, don't listen to these retards, the Dragon does not have a snail pace, actually the opposite, it's just as fast if not faster the other defense planes. Also if you get in to a turning Dog fight with an agility plane (if it's a weapons or defense plane I obliterate it) hit the afterburners and break off in a straight line, when your opponent realizes you left and begins to pursue, flip around and unload your missiles, in a head on flight to each other, the Dragon will beat any agility plane.

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    1. Really?
      In my iron fang, I just hit the afterburner, and fly about 20% left or right of my opponent. A quick maneuver is all it takes to dodge the missiles- bisnovates or not. What is your game center ID? I wouldn't mind taking this to the skies.

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    2. Really?
      In my iron fang, I just hit the afterburner, and fly about 20% left or right of my opponent. A quick maneuver is all it takes to dodge the missiles- bisnovates or not. What is your game center ID? I wouldn't mind taking this to the skies.

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    3. I think it's quite the same for Dragon and GE, although the latter is of course even more difficult to kill. If you know your stuff and you fly an agility or a weapon plane, it's not difficult to avoid being killed by these defense planes. The only exception may be if they have bisnos (the task is a little harder but still feasible) but if you have powerful missiles too, you should be able to make several kills, even against a GE. Therefore, I think these planes may be difficult to kill but if you are careful (and skilled) that may be even more difficult for your opponent flying a defense plane to kill you. I ended up understanding that after losing many games against these planes. In fact I was in a hurry trying to hit them many times before they regenerate and the result was that I exposed myself much more than what I usually did against other planes. Now my advice against these defense planes is : be patient, don't forget prudence, at least you will make a draw or maybe a 1-0 draw. That's why I don't really consider that these planes are unfair as some say. What I find unfair is that except Dragon, GE and maybe Raven, defense planes are not good enough to challenge good weapon and agility planes. It seems that a lot of eager players bought the Achilles and the Nightwing when they were released but they rapidly came back to weapon and agility planes. I rarely meet these planes in the sky now and I'm sad to see that. I think a good way to improve this would be to increase the weight of stealth in the game.

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  15. Buy the Dragon, not but the Dragon
    My bad

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  16. So buy or don't buy? Will the red widow be back anytime soon?

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    1. My advice: buy the Dragon now if you have enough credits.

      The price of the Hawken is just 22.5k credits, you can reach it again in short time and the Hawken is always there.

      The Red Widow will come back, but not so soon as you wish.

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    2. Isn't the tresher at 22,5k? Isn't the hawken 20k? It was like this when i bought it.

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    3. Sorry, it's my mistake! :)

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  17. That's my plane

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  18. Hey, Pilots. I know this is a bit off topic but the last one is the only that people read :). I noticed, doing an interesting walk into game files, a strange thing: A plane numbered "9999" with +60% Cannon damage, +40% Cannon cooldown and 60% Armor. I know you probably won't believe me, if so, if you have iFile follow this steps:
    / > var > mobile > Applications > MetalStorm > MetalStorm.app > stats_aircraft.json, open it with text viewer and scroll to the bottom, it should be there.
    To see apps' names insted of combinations of numbers and letters (I think it is their hash code) go to iFile's settings, File manage and mark "Applications' names" or something similar. I have a screenshot too, but you could think that I made it myself. Maybe I'll update it to my dropbox.

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    1. I'd like to see the plane's look. And I believe you, the stats of that plane are probably something messed up, because Z2Live won't release a plane like that. Maybe a file glitch?

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    2. Did you see it? Really strangeful. Possible glitch or a hacker tried to create a super plane, I don't know. There isn't any photo in game files but I need to search now that the game is updated to 4.1.3.

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    3. @Skyraza, I saw it too. However, there are no plane files associated with that plane, and it's only mentioned in stats_aircraft.json, and nowhere else.

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  19. Guys I great plane for MSW would be
    F-5 (real plane name)
    Weapon Class
    Stats:
    +12 Damage
    +10 Damage Resistance
    +12 Missile Reload
    +10 Armour
    Another plane suggestion
    Based on Mig-33
    Weapon class
    Stats:
    +5 missile tracking
    +10 missile reload
    +12 damage
    +5 Critical Strike
    Another Weapon class Suggestion
    Based in Mig-27
    Stats:
    +6 missile tracking
    +14 Damage
    +10 missile Reload
    +12 Lock Speed

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  20. Didn't mean Mig-33 but I meant Mig-31

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  21. iknowthetrick :)July 20, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    Pilot's Get ready for new KING of Weapon Class, Say Hello to the new featured plane of MSW ...

    GP-87 Warlock (weapon class)

    Damage +14%
    Agility +11%
    Missile reload +10%
    Energy +12%


    http://db.tt/jAjH4Ca4
    http://db.tt/vLLpP27K
    http://db.tt/BIC3N8fD

    I don't know when is the released date... maybe this weekend or maybe monday! maybe someone can check it out on ifile coz i don't have time to check it up! And also the Mighty spectre is about to released nextweek!
    enjoy pilots and save some coins for this plane coz in my opinion this plane is the best!

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    1. 3rd link not working try this http://db.tt/BlC3N8fD

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    2. So they're finally releasing a better weapons class plane that's, in my opinion, better than the Red Widow for versus mode.

      I'm not upset though, the difference isn't much.

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    3. The Warlock maybe a ww1 or ww2 plane look like, but i like the bonus stats combination on that plane! I might get it...agility + energy are valuable to me if i use a weapon class.

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    4. SH!T i was about to get the cobalt tonight coz they released it again and then this! Warlock change my mind i rather wait :).... feel sorry for those pilot's who jump on buying the cobalt today not knowing that their is something better coming up *sigh. im guessing they will release this plane this coming monday.

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    5. Okay, following are the sequence of planes for this weekend until next:
      Cobalt - July 20 - July 22
      Spectre - July 23 - July 29
      Warlock - July 27 - July 29

      Btw, Z2Live always uses 12:00pm PST as the release/cutoff time.

      @wrx, you'll have to wait patiently for another week to get Warlock. :p

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    6. Some breakdown about Warlock:

      Damage +14% (applies to both Cannon & Missile) - This make it 2nd in class Missile Damage and 3rd in class for Cannon Damage (same as Red Widow and Ice Wolf, but below Sentinel)

      Agility +11% - 1st in class

      Missile reload +10% - 2nd in class (same as Red Widow again, but below Hurricane)

      Energy +12% - 1st in class

      So, this plane is like Red Widow with improve agility and energy but less critical strike.

      This will be interesting plane to use for Vs. :)

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    7. Oh, with the price of 180 coins, it's cheaper than 205 coins Red Widow.

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    8. One question for Iknowthetrick:), can you buy Warlock plane now using the trick that you know?

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    9. The Warlock is based on the Chengdu J7 Airguard. It is similar to the Ice Wolf, only wings change.

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    10. Oh and about damage, you forgot to mention Cobalt and Eagle-x, which are tied 2nd in fleet.

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    11. And...the Cyclops is actually first in class for agility in weapons class. The Warlock is second.

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    12. I wish they had modeled it on the Mig-21 instead of the J-7. The Fishbed is such a classic and has been used in a lot more airforces around the world than the J7.

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    13. I still think RW will still be the king. RW has better chance to hit harder with critical strike and I actually do feel the difference. I'm guessing the added energy would add only enough to add one more barrel roll or something. However with 40% DMG reduction when performing maneuver, that kinda adds defence at the same time. So warlock would seem a very tough one to beat, but in my opinion, RW still is a beast when it comes to dealing damage.

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    14. Chengdu J-7 was of course built based on MiG-21. In a way, Warlock is also based on MiG-21.

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    15. @Skyraza: Which features of the GP-87 Warlock tell you, that it is not based on the Mig-21 but on the Chengdu J-7?

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    16. They are basically the same plane. The only thing that tells me is the name of the files related to this plane:
      mdl_warlock_j7_146.[extention].
      Real plane name is written on any plane's related files' name (another is Achilles --> mdl_achilles_sr71_138_wing[letter].[extention]), of course you are way better than me recognizing them.

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    17. Also there are some differences in appearance between the J7 and the Mig 21. Specifically the J7 has a kink in the leading edge of the wings whereas the Mig 21 does not (the Warlock does). There are also differences in the "ridge" along the back of the plane where it extends from the top of the cockpit on the Mig. I'm sure there are other differences, but I didn't bother looking further than that.

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  22. Z2 must be really desperate for idea bringing in an idea like boosts but you wanna make the game more fun, addicting and more profitable? Here’s a really good idea. Tournaments. You can have like 5 heats for a tournament with players going head to head the winner can get a prize like 10 coins. the people who did not win the tournament can get 100 credits for trying.
    Now you’re going to be thinking how is this profitable? Well think this what if you charged players 1 or 2 coins to just enter the tournament.This way they have a chance of winning the coins they need for upgrades but if they lose they still get a bit of credits for trying.This doesn’t have to stop here you can have people noted for winning tournaments this could be in the game centre achievements and if they get enough tournament wins they can qualify to play a once-in-a-while tournament played with the best head to head and you can have an even bigger prize.Yes you’ll be giving away stuff but you’ll be having so much players paying a coin (multiplied by all your players) to just lay in the tournament.Now if you can make this idea happen I’m sure this game would be more FUN for us and more PROFITABLE for you. If yoiu do use my idea just note that my game center ID is: HellslayerFTW

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    1. Worst idea ever...you might as well charge 100 coins for every time you open up the game.

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    2. Here's the problem okay? Z2 is just going to make more and more planes-with better and better stats. However, many players have learned this strategy and are now reluctant about buying new planes. The last thing z2 needs is to hire more developers to make something called tournaments. In addition, your idea makes this game less interesting for new players, who can't do tournaments at all since many don't know about tapjoy. I didn't know tapjoy existed until I started reading this blog. Even worse, you will start loosing your ace pilots. Bisnovate pilots are frustrating. Better and better planes just cause headaches. Now the boost feature?!?! Your idea is pretty much charging coins for versus mode. Of course, it isn't very profitable for z2 either. Around 55% of my versus mode matches are wins, which mean while they are charging coins to enter the tournaments, they are also giving out a lot. Their profit increases will not be significant and will not be able to pay for the developers.
      Your idea=less ace players, less beginners; more developers, barely any extra profit

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    3. Tournaments are just another game mode survival campaign and versus is still free tournaments are just for those daredevils who think they can get more coins by wining.That's not it though they charge each player 1 coin to enter if they lose they get few credits. The winner of the tournament gets 20 credits. If a tournament is is full then there would be a lot of players entering. Tournaments can be 8,16,32 the prize can be 5 coins for 8, 8 coins for 16 and 10 coins for 32.It's like going for a pool tournament. and they should also do higher tier tournaments like a 32 to a 16 to a 8 then grand final between two ace pilots and a prize.I see what you mean with bisnos and i understand this should a be a fair tournament and the tournament officially will be able to ban all credit and coin missiles the only things you can use is stock weapons and you upgraded plane. Z2 gets profit from the charge they get from people entering and one of the player will receive a prize.

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  23. Why do you say that they can charge credits too but that's why you gotta be skilled

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    1. Credits=no profit. Then you have all these developers, with no pay.

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  24. So what happens if we vs someone with a green eagle that has bisnos and zeus? We're practically fucked.

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    1. We won't be fucked by a GE. GE turns too slowly, note that you will be very safe. But the GE regenerates too fast, it's hard to kill it unless you use coins weapons and keep hitting it.

      Basically i use the same tactics like Florovic to deal with GEs, don't wanna waste my ammo, unless the GE flyer is a newbie. I shot down a GE by my C-101 last week, not because i was good, but because he sucked.

      Most GE flyers are truely newbies, they got the GEs by some means we don't know.

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    2. You guys gotta learn to use the terrain to your advantage i always fight in my raven and i tend to use my terrain to defeat my opponents.Here's how i deal with ANY class jet. I have enough defence to take about 2 bisnos before i die so i go straight for the opposition then i swipe up the immediately after i swipe down and go straight down the you start going in a circle going up the down towards the sea/ground the opponent should follow to try to get aim at you.what you do then is DIFFICULT .(You risk crashing,But if done right guarantees your opponent to crash) You go straight down towards the ground/sea and try to go as close as you can with out pulling up or swiping down and going back up. Now when your going down towards the sea/ground go at an slight angle about 10-20 degrees off of going vertically down.no when you think you going to crash do barrel roll to the left/right depending on which way you angle yourself.(make sure you d this at full throttle. If this is done right you should glide over the water/ground at exactly 0-10 in altitude after doing the barrel roll turn hard the way you did the barrel roll.You've done it you've made your opponent crash.This will work almost every time with defence and weapons class the only class that has evaded this trick is agility but some agility planes still crashed. If you would like to see me perform this trick and see how it affects YOU in a dogfight add me my GC is : HellslayerFTW

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  25. Do you know how I deal with GE flyers? I get my agility plane and follow it around not shooting even a single round a cannon wen if it's Vulcan the whole point is we want to bore GE flyers to death
    Do you know why GE flyers do t get bored? They laugh when you shoot them and you can't kill them

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    1. I'm thinking about arming my plane with bisnovates to fight green eagles, Dragon pilots, and other coin missile pilots, while using cannons only for everyone else

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  26. Guys I hope Z2 will take my 4 suggestion on board
    SU-34 Agility Class
    Stats:
    +8 Missile Reload (only agility class with this bonus)
    +10 Stealth (Also only agility class with this bonus)
    +14 Agility (2nd best in class)
    +12 Speed (2nd best in class)
    Then the F-117 Nighthawk
    Defence class
    Stats:
    +5 Critical Strike (Best in class)
    +15 Stealth (Best in class)
    +8 Damage (Best in Class)
    +14 Agility (Best in class)
    L-59 Super Albatros
    Agility class
    Stats:
    +5 Evasion (4th in class)
    +13 Agility (3rd in class)
    +10 Energy (5th in class)
    +15 Speed (Best in class)
    F-5
    Weapon Class
    Stats:
    +12 Damage (same as Hawken)
    +10 damage resistance (first in class to have it)
    +10 Armour (Best in class)
    +12 Missile reload (best in class drawing with hurricane)

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    1. The last one would be almost the perfect plane, so it would unbalance the game. The other ones are well-thought, but I'd made a bit better stats to the Nighthawk because it is one of my favorite aircrafts :-).

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    2. I gave the Nightgawk good and practical stats
      I'd it came out all of its stats are the best compared to other defence class
      Critical strike and damage give a very good punch then Agility will be awesome you'll be out turning those Liberties then Stealth even better than Nightwing!!!

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    3. The last one on the 4 suggestions has a mistake; The Paladin is 1st in class for armour for weapons.

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    4. Do we really need more planes?

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    5. I think we have enough but if Z2Live doesn't stop making new planes or re-skins, they'd have to keep re-releasing planes that have been featured many times before.

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  27. For L-59 the energy it's acually (3rd in class) sorry for the mistake

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  28. The Warlock has only 1% agility more than the RW and extra energy instead of critical strike. Critical strike is more useful for a weapon plane in my opinion because I rarely get low of energy with my RW. In addition the Warlock is not really beautiful while I love the RW design. My mind is made up... Happy to learn that they reissue the Spectre, I'm gonna buy it.
    I did not buy the Cyclops but I think it's a very good weapon plane. +14% agility must be awesome.

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  29. The Nighthawk stats look overpowered and you want them better?!
    Critical Strike +5 that's the highest Z2 puts it as
    Then Agility +14 for a defence class
    +15 Stealth better than Nightwing!
    damage +8 do the plane looks acceptable do it doesn't seem over powered

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  30. Better stats for F-117 Nighthawk
    Defence class
    Stats:
    +15 Stealth
    +5 Critical Strike
    +14 Agility
    +12 Damage Resistance

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    1. I don't think the F-117 Nighthawk should get an agility bonus in MSWM, if they choose to add it (personally, I'd rather they spent their money on fixing the lag). In real life, the F-117 was barely airworthy, and certainly not particularly fast or agile. Critical strike, damage resistance vs cannons, evasion, and stealth make a lot more sense, though. I would probably make it like this:
      +30% Stealth (yes, 30%. F-117s were amazingly stealthy, and the MSWM version would need enough of it to show a significant reduction in lock speed).
      +2% Critical Strike (a slight bonus, but nothing huge)
      +10 DMG reduction vs. cannons (hard to hit consistently a plane you can't see)
      +14% Evasion (missiles will have a hell of a time finding a lock on the F-117's specially-shielded exhaust grilles)
      Z2 will have a field day with the price on this one, I just know it. Could be worth it, though. I'd pay 400 coins for that kind of stealth and evasion (if I still played MSWM, that is. SGAS has me hooked).

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    2. ...Annnd they released it, as the Striker. Surprise surprise, they completely screwed it up and added it as an agility plane. Why did I ever play this game in the first place?

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  31. Friend showed me infinity blade and I haven't played mswm for 2 months.
    Sorry guys

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