Sunday, February 10, 2013

The Widow is back in Town







Originally priced at 180 - the Widow now costs 205 coins
Well, it looks like Z2Live has gone and brought back the Red Widow which should make some of you readers very happy.  This beast has always been one of the best of class in the weapons genre.  Originally released on 2/3/12, the "Red Widow" has excellent Missile Reload and Agility and solid damage boosts also.  Throw in +5% critical strike and this sucker is a tough plane to beat.  The only thing that the Red Widow may be lacking is missile lock speed.  Critical strike rating increases the probability of getting 2X damage on a hit.


See the Red Widow perform in the YouTube video below:




See PLANE COMPARISON TABLES for detailed assessment of all the planes performance ratings including the Red Widow which has been added.







You may recognize the Red Widow as the plane of our beloved VARGAS in the campaign.


 The Red Widow, just like the Marauder, is based on the real life F-35 Lightning.


Real life shot of an F-35

Underbelly of an F-35 with weapons bay doors open


Click here for more real life picts of the F-35 Lightning


210 comments:

  1. Hey Lugg first off keep up the excellent work bro!!!

    The "Red Widow" is based off of the USAF F-35 joint strike fighter, and reviews right now seem to be mixed as to whether it beats the Hawken or not, it sounds like some people are just going to collect it and leave it in the hangar considering the expensive amount to buy and upgrade this beast, over 300 coins.

    P.S. I love you dedication and wanted to point out a typo... skys is spelled skies. :)

    Ian H Pedersen aka ThumperTwice

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    1. sky gamblers air supremacy has introduced IAP's. NOOOOOOOOO!!!

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    2. actually its not so bad just bought a few aircraft and now you can customize colour schemes for just 1$ game currency

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  2. I did mean love your dedication. LOL

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  3. thanks this is very helpfull keep up the good work love it,,,,

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  4. The red widow is bases on the JSF F-35 , it's the same as the saber and the marauder .......


    I got it this morning 342 coins and 13000 crédits to Max it out , and from m'y POV it's not as punchy as the hawken , my first versus was indeed against a SR 15000 with bisnos ........ The red widow did join her husband 0-2 ........ :(


    Still testing it .....

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  5. Should have skins for planes- 250 credits for a basic color, 5 coins for camo and 10 coins for a special design eg copperhead's plane, an angry eagle, dragons, ninjas, techno and much more

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    1. Skins
      Blue with stripes, red with yellow etc. 500 credits
      purple with pink, red with a picture missile running through it etc. 1250 credits
      Green camo ,gray camo, black and white etc. 5 coins
      Stealth coating +7% stealth,armor plating +6% armor, extra fuel tanks +15% energy, larger after burners +5 speed +12% acceleration etc. 10 coins
      Custom skins, you can put words and pictures on your plane as well as camo, colors, upgrades, and artwork. 20 coins

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    2. That is a great idea. One recommendation though; upgrades should be pay for what you get, not a set price.

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  7. I notice Red Widow has the highest 'real' Critical Strike rating of all the available fighters. I calculate this real rating by adding whatever percentage is given in the headline ratings for each aircraft to the specs provided in 'tech upgrades.' All 'weapons' grade aircraft have a Critical Strike rating in tech upgrades. If there is an additional CS rating given in the headline ratings, I've assumed this is an already present CS capability even without upgrades. We can then calculate a total rating from the upgrade percentage and the pre-installed capability. In Red Widow's case the pre-installed capability is 5% and the maximum upgrade capability is 16% [as it is for all the top-grade attack aircraft]. The total CI is therefore 21%. This compares with the total CI for say The Eagle-X which is an upgrade-only 16%. Note, all tech specs can be tallied this way to get a clearer more accurate picture of an aircraft's capability than is possible than the headline specs. [Comment reposted to correct typo.]

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    1. The iorn fang has the same critical strike, I have both, is this to do with the campaigns in some way?

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  9. I'll leave out the fact that this game rates real life fighters such as the F-22 inferior to an F-15, and makes the F-35 a better fighter than the F-22 and F-15...The best endorsement I can give the Red Widow is that I faced off against a far superior pilot in a Hawken wiith Bisnovats and I had my RW with Bisnovats and fought him to a draw. I'm Rstill not that great a dogfighter so I put this all on the BW keeping me alive in that game.

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    1. You've gotta be kidding me... A pro-thresher could butcher a hawken.

      Still loled at the fact that the marauder (F-35) was considered an agility class plane though.

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  10. I take down a skilled RW with wraith and Phoenix, but I draw a noob RW with hawken and same set up. Yet when I'm in RW and standard, I take down every single weapon class with whatever set up. IMO, it is beast.

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  11. A great plane (better than the Eagle and the Hawken). Would be the best by far with slightly more agility and speed:-). Tough call between the RW and the Liberty or the Hurricane!

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    1. If the Marauder had more agility then it would be an unfair game breaker plane.

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  12. I think the argument is settled--the Red Widow tops the Hawken because it has a slightly higher damage rating. That's key for going deeper in Co-Op Survival mode. I've not noticed much of a difference in lock speed when flying the Hawken.

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  13. i fly a hawken w/bisnos and i am so-so...i ran into 4 widows all higher ratings and i waxed them all...they all can't stay off that bull run move...no patience...but it seemed face up off the draw the hawken had the advantage...maybe cause i called the DRAW!

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    1. You got the guts to openly admit that you're using bisnos?! While flying a hawken to boot?!

      Kudos to you, bro, I wouldn't ever have dared saying something like that.

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    2. darn noob uve got skills, i mean your bisnovat got skills lol! what a pathetic guy bragging about his wins. thanks to your coin missile uve got the advantage w/o it your nothing but a typical noob coin spammer!

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    3. I don't know what you are talking about....you jail break your ipad/itouch and load it with?? You are the cheaters....One hit sidewinders ehh mate....

      gospelbird21

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  14. To StarCaller and other readers:
    Has anyone noticed that in Campaign, Vargas ( Your helper) uses a Red Widow? People should've seen before the Red Widow came out, that the plane was already in the game, but unusable. Therefore, another helper known as Copperhead, has a plane that will probably be featured later on. It's silver with black and orange stripes.

    Selinalpaca

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    1. Its the U-9 raider that Copperhead flies; different skin

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    2. well... we all know now that it is the iron fang, which is based off the same plane as the U-9 Raider, but has a different skin in the game, which is identical to copperheads plane.

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  15. I love this plane. =)
    It definitely has more punch than the hawken. If you dogfight well, you can take down any plane, even agility class, faster than the hawken with 2% extra damage and with 5% crit rate. No need for lock speed during "really close" dogfights.
    As for campaign, I can clear all stage with standard missiles and faster than any plane because crit takes them down so fast; however, if you've been used to hawken, you'll need to be a little patient with locking on the enemy.

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    1. Without having either, I'd take the Hawken in Campaign since I'll have several missiles in the air at the same time and can't know if they'll crit or not. I know how many missiles I need to fire per target (mission 3-5 in particular). Having faster locking would be more useful.

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  16. I hope they re-issue this plane!!!! It is so b@d-@$$....I pilot a hawken and this is the only plane I can't consistently beat. Will they EVER re issue this BEAST!

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  17. I definitely hope that this plane doesn't get re-issued right after I spend all of my coins on another plane. I wish it could have some extra speed as well to do bullruns.

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  18. When Will this airplane be back. I have the Coins.

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  19. Coins Smoins, all I need is the X-wing to kick @ss

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    1. the X-95 Skywalker - weapons class
      damage: +50%
      agility: +50%
      critical strike: +30%
      speed: +200%

      :D

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    2. No No No. This is the X-wing weapons/agility/defense class
      damage: 100%
      agility:100%
      armor:100%
      armor regen:100%
      Cost: 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999990 blue coins

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  20. What is critical strike? can someone explain that please...

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    1. Critical strike is the chance of getting the,'Critical Strike! 2x damage' message. The critical strike upgrade for my eagle x seemed quite obvious but there is a video on youtube with a guy flying a RW in missions 1,3,5 and he never got the Critical strike message.

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    2. If you would read the description on his channel you would have found out that the message doesn't come up on AirPlay it's what he uses to record gameplays

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  21. You guys have no idea how much I want this plane or one better....You know what they say, "There is always something better". If they don't re-issue this plane or one better...bridges don't seem that high to jump off of...

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  22. Anyone know when this plane will roll back around? I barely missed the chance to get with one coin left to go! Also, my brother has this game and is debating against me. Should I stick with my Hawken, or get RW, the Iron Fang that was released today and will end by the end of the weekend, or the spectre through the Thailand trick?
    -Thanks=)

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  23. if u already have and upgraded the hawken, unless u have money to burn, i would just stick with the hawken. i also think the spectre is more worth it than the iron fang, but it will cost u an extra 68 blue coins. I personally want the red widow really badly, and i think i will stick with marauder until i get more skilled. i'm glad that i have the dragon as a defense plane ;)

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    1. Thnx a lot. Turns out my brother had some other dogfighting game that seemed to copy everything on MS. He sent me over a full upgrade spectre, dragon, RW, and nightwing. I'm really surprised about what he did. I still wonder though, how much does he play?!

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  24. Missile reload is better since you KNOW it is garunteed. CRITICAL DAMAGE is random!

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    1. BUT, it increases ur chance of having critical damage. missile reload is on both the hawken and red widow. u preobably meant lock speed.

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  25. Hey, The Kid. Good news. i watched the Q and A on the official site and found out that the saber, marauder, dragon, and lastly, the RED WIDOW will be rereleased at some point. :)

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    1. Yes, I hope it will come back very soon ;-)

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  26. I think the Red Widow is an excellent weapons class plane. Not only is it like the Hawken in missile reload and agility, but it has extra damgae too! I really enjoy flying this plane in versus mode and in campaigns. It's nimble and batters enemy planes with ease. The only thing that I don't like is its lack of extra missile lock speed. I'm used to flying with a Paladin and am accustomed to the high missile lock speed. I need to get re-acclimated with my Widow.

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  27. It's about to be released the "plane of the week" : I really hope it will be the Red Widow. I have coins and I am ready to spend all of them with this plane (since it is the best in class in my opinion). By the way I think they will release the new planes before...

    Skyraza.

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  28. Waiting for the Red Widow, seems tempting!

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  29. OMG... I just literally, about 1 minute ago, got myself into a match of Hawken VS Red widow. I was using the Hawken, and won the first match 6-5. Then my opponent asked for a rematch, and in my opponent won 4-3. The opponent had a skill rating of about 1000 more than I had, but I have beaten players with a higher skill rating than that. I thought that the match could have been more fair because I was using standard cannon and Lancers, and my opponent was using bisnovats and Zeus cannon.

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  30. out again, I'm very happy and just bought it..but I think the last update of MSWM has something wrong.
    I shooted at least 30 missiles to a raven, always hitting the target, and the display showed 5 times "Critial strike", but that Raven seemed an Highlander, never exploded!
    Something similar happened also with my Rath, I shooted so many missiles always reaching the target...I was always shooted down with just 2 shoots, and to kill others it was quite impossible!
    I must evidence that several times I'm talking about fights with same weapon and same class.

    I admit I felt much more surprised about the problems above flying the red widow, coz I had Phoenix or Raams and I was flying a weapon class, with 14% damage and 5% critical strike!

    What damn happends to MSWM? are there too many hackers outside? or just a software problem?

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  31. They did it, the RW is back. Bought and upgraded it and then gave it a shot in a few campaign missions and versus matchs. My first impression is that it is a f###ing good plane. Compared to my fidel Sentinel, the extra Agility is noticeable although it's only 4% more, and what to say about the missile reload... Jeez, it's amazing! In contrast, my impression was that the number of critical strikes I did was not that different from what I usually get with Sentinel. It's very subjective, but I felt no significant difference in damage between these two planes, whereas the lower lock range and even armor seem to be more significant. The extra lock range of the Sentinel is precious, especially in campaign but also in versus mode, but overall I think that the missile reload of the RW is more valuable, especially in versus mode.
    Last but not least I love its design, although some said it looks like a fire truck.
    In all, I'm not gonna bury my Sentinel, but the RW is likely to become my plane of choice for a while.

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    1. Send me I friend request, I have a raven, hawken, red widow, iron fang and thresher. My game center is DominationDude5

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  32. Way too many hackers these days, sometimes its really upsetting

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  33. I had almost all the weapon plane red widow is the best ... I had the Achilles it's sucks I lost 25 bucks for this for agility I love to use iron fang .... Abt the hacker yeah I fought 1 hawken and is faster than my raptor is something wrong with this game some times

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  34. I had almost all the weapon plane red widow is the best ... I had the Achilles it's sucks I lost 25 bucks for this for agility I love to use iron fang .... Abt the hacker yeah I fought 1 hawken and is faster than my raptor is something wrong with this game some times

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  35. @MetalStorm Forever
    Hey, the Red Widow was just released last night. That makes an unprecedented 3 planes of the week as well as the Dynasty. Wow! -Chilarmy

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  36. RW has re-released this Morning for 205 coins ������

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  37. Wow,guys. I finally have the plane i have always wished and it is the new best out there, in my opinion. I'm scarying the s**t out of MS:W with it. I beated 30k+ SR weapon class and agi class pilots and I just beated 4-1 and 4-0 a liberty with 700 SR more than me with stock weapons ( perhaps coz for mistake I forgot to switch back to credit missiles and I used my lancers and apollos, lol). The damage dued with his very high agility make his plane able to kill a fully upgraded dragon (tryed it, he have 16k+ SR), I saw more criticals than with my Hawken and about the missile reload, well, The Kid stolen the words from my mouth... I tryed it in campaign too and I pulverized everything got against me, so I have just to say: MUAHAHAH!!!

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    1. notice how you've been mainly amazed at the missile reload and agility-all of which the hawken has...+2 damage compared to the hawken, and a stupid bird paint theme with no eyes. so instead of buying a f-15 fighter jet, you've decided to buy a blind bird...interesting

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    2. I understand you but think: If you have the possibility, why to not get the best weapon class out there? I do an average of 3/4 criticals every match and having more damage it is better than the Hawken so I got it. About the blind bird, I prefer RW's stile than Hawken's and isn't this last one blind too?

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    3. hawken isn't a bird, it's a plane

      for 180 coins, you have to be pretty skill-less to need this plane-considering that you can't survive in a plane with -2 damage. really-if you have some skill, you can survive in a f-7 wraith, so you certainly do not need a plane with +2 damage compared to a plane that cost credits(hint...hint). at least they should have added eyes and mouth like on the a-17 paladin-and kept it 180 coins(or made it 145 coins)

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    4. If you think that way, you need neither a RW... nor a Hawken.
      I don't see why it would be a problem to pay coins rather than credits for a plane. Tapjoy can provide you with hundreds of coins every monthly only by downloading free apps. In contrast, if you buy a credit plane, it takes a lot of credits to buy and fully upgrade it. If you don't want to pay for these credits, it will take you a good amount of time to save it. 205 coins for the RW is a good bargain if you compare its price to those of other planes available.
      Maybe you rather than the RW need eyes to see that it's not only slightly better than the Hawken, it's also beautiful (point of view) and much less common than the Hawken. And what to say about the reskinned Hawken (Sentinel, Helix) that make it even more common.

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    5. you're right, i need neither a red widow or hawken. I can beat both in my primary planes-the raider and iron fang. with over 9000 (before i switched game center ids)skill rating, I need not a hawken, and certainly not a red widow with nothing but +2 damage compared to the hawken. good plane, but barely worth 180 coins and certainly not 205. it is kind of like the marauder, which has been ruined by the thresher which cost 3 times less. kind of stupid that z2 would increase this planes price-yet decrease the s-03 saber's price to 160 coins.

      especially since a reaper armed with bisnovates will both out maneuver, and out gun it...unless you plan to arm your plane with bisnovates, you will always be killed by skill-less idiots

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    6. u guys are so stupid dont think ur amazing if u beat a 30000sr player ok SR means absolutely nothing ok. ive beaten guys with over 100000,and for the guy above, people with bisnos will not always win! and dont think that every agility class pilot can outmaneuver a weapons class pilot....

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    7. what's your skill rating you ignorant fool? you are saying that a weapons class aircraft is more agile than a reaper...it is really just the tactics-and when it comes to tactics, even the best of weapons class pilots will struggle to dodge bisnovate missiles.

      ...and you thing we are all stupid...you're funny

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  38. damm to many noobs flying RW in vs mode w/ bisnoobat . oh well time to pwned them one at a time!

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  39. I think this week has had a record number of featured planes being released.

    t_park

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  40. What's with z2? It was 180 coins and now look at the price tag. Red widow, paladin and rath have been rip-offs considering there previous prices. Liberty is next.

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  41. For those players that are patiently waiting for the ICE WOLF get ready you guys are about to get rip off bigtime! The price has change from 205 coins to 300 coins. Yep, ICe WOlf is now 300 blue coins. For those players that already purchased it before through Arabian trick Good Job!

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    1. you don't see many of those now that we know it looks like shit.

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    2. How can you know this? And overall How can someone have found its picture???

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    3. I came across one from a gamecentre friend because he told me he bought it. I haven't bumped into any in auto matches. Maybe my SR is not matching with the players buying this plane

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    4. @ SKYRAZA metalstormapp.com

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    5. I like the way the ice wolf looks
      .:Arman92:.

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  42. Hey guys can someone Tell me how to use my gc pic as my Profile pic in ms:w?

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    1. Can't do that no more in mswingman, the old version msonline has the option to do that! If your intersted on that style go to the official msw site and bug them till they get annoyed.

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    2. Yes, but all the people who hack the coin mod will get the ice wolf...
      Yes, you squadrons are cheater people....try jail break trick.

      gospelbird21

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    3. DeathLord + former squadron member of ______hehehe...

      Yes, but I would say most or all of the oldtimers have the jailbreaks for stuff....just nobody is talking...the code of the aces....

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    4. @kid "Gg" nice fying!

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    5. haha gospelbird ur a sore loser, i beat u 2-0 even though u had sentinel, bisnos while i had marauder and ramms.....and then u send me a FR saying im a cheat. im no cheat... just cause i know how to dogde bisnos and outmaneuver u dont mean im a cheat

      Btw [SH] Daniel x97 we met in versus ur quite a good pilot, but u leave urself a bit too open in the dogfight

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    6. One Thing i didn't was that because i have nö sentinel!

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  43. To wrx™:
    Congrats, you're great! I could not really hope more than a draw. You're a true one: C101, credits missiles, and I can still hear the sound of your cannons! My new plane the Red Widow was not enough against you, althouth I made a couple of wins against players with SR much higher than mine today. By the way, I was happy to play your 5000th game ;-)

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  44. Vargas's ship... RIP... Or will she be back??? Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnn.

    For a price of 205 coins, I don't think it's worth purchasing. Sure it has +4% for damage, +5% critical strike, it's pretty identical to the Hawken.

    Although it looks really awesome... that's for sure.

    Still going to use my Eagle X on missions, if anyone wants to add me, my IGN is Wheetastic :)

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  45. The more I play this game the more I am convinced the published technical ratings for each plane or often not 'the whole story'. This is something which most comes to mind when flying the planes and realizing that they have characteristics which go beyond the ratings. For example the Paladin seems much more agile than the average 7% agility it's got in common with the other Weapons Class planes, according to published specifications. I'm going to do more research into this idea, take more observations and report back.

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    1. it might be just because of how the planes are sized. the a-17 paladin's large engines moving around in your face make it look agile. if you try to dogfight with a hawken in an a-17, the a-17 will not be as agile. it is just illusions and tech upgrades combined that gives you the feeling that the stats are hiding stuff. same reason that in a car, the closer things like trees look like they are moving faster than the mountains in the backround

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    2. i personally don't think the a-17 paladin is that agile though

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  46. What happened to "floro"? Where is he now? Is he banned from this site? His always on a post spree! I've seen his post on the other mswapp site! It's been 3 days now since his last post.

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    1. Who cares? He only sais the planes he wants are beasts while the planes he can't afford are shit. He's just a kid...

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    2. I kinda miss him. He may have been annoying at first but his endless posting was kindo f entertaining afterall.

      There're a lot less posts on the official forums as well. I wonder what's up with that...

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    3. It's because of Facebook. Most people, put their real names and SMART people don't give it out. With battle nations it's a different story entirely.

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    4. Yes, it seems like there are less new post those days. Curious if you consider the number of planes released since a few days!
      Not surprisingly, I feel very with my new plane the Red Widow. I play it with RAAMs and made a lot of wins or at least draws against solid opponents. That baby just brought me to 7k ;-)
      But I still cannot figure out how some guys can be so good and so fast. I'm not talking about cheaters but guys with very high SR, most often flying an Agility plane with credits or even standards weapons. It looks like whatever I can do, they keep right behind my butt and never stop firing me with their cannons. Most often, they do not make more than 1 or 2 kills because they don't use powerful ammos, but I never succeed to hit them more than a few times and almost never score a kill. I know it's all about skill, but it's just like if their plane had +300% speed and agility and they had 360° vision.

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    5. Not surprisingly, I feel very HAPPY (what else...) with my new plane the Red Widow

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  47. I thought that this time I'll put a dad joke instead of mum joke:

    Your dad is like a radiator because it needs a knob to turn it on!

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    1. hey Florovicj ur the guy with a fake NSF tag and i whopped u 3-0 when i met u in vs

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  48. I know that most players here are more into versus mode and so am I, but I hope they will end up making some new campaign missions. I played a couple of missions those last days because I wanted to try my Red Widow and to get familiar with it, and I must say it can be a lot of fun. The scenario is quite simple, but anyway I would like to see what will happen next. What's funny is that for now, you are rather on the evil side, but things might change...
    I guess it must be a lot of work for Zi2 to elaborate new missions.

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  49. Has anybody been facing an Ice Wolf in versus? I presume it may be possible for guys who bought it through the trick before the last update.

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    1. No, but I have been running into a lot of green eagles lately. Which makes me consider that there is a 'new trick' because these pilots have had less than 300 games played. Not only that but also makes me consider that the green eagle may be. Re-released in the upcoming weeks to come.

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    2. Totally agree, I met a lot of these indestructible turtles too, although their pilot had a lot of games played and SR above 10-15k. There must be something like the previous Thai or Saudi trick. Maybe people keep it secret because they don't want Z2 to close it.
      Releasing the Green Eagles maybe a good way for Z2 to get people to buy coin missiles. I made several matchs with different opponents, always with my Red Widow + credit missiles, and it's true that it is extremely difficult to make only one kill. I guess it must be much easier with coin missiles.
      I will not buy the Green Eagle if they release it, because I don't find interesting to fight that way. If you just want to see your SR increase, the Green Eagle might be OK for this, but so boring to fly...

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  50. More pics of the IceWolf!
    http://db.tt/skJXHj2P
    http://db.tt/6ETpvF1d
    http://db.tt/SgPGqG3A
    http://db.tt/6DDQ84Ay

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    1. How did you see the Ice Wolf? Please answer.

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    2. Obviously there is a new "country" trick. Don't ask me what country, I don't know, but there is no other explanation for me.
      It confirms that there is a new trick whith every update.

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    3. I thought this,too. Now I'm going to check some other countries.

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    4. Good luck Skyraza! Keep us up ;-)
      By the way, I would be happy if you could add me in your GC: GTheKid

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  51. I know you people hate bisnovate pilots, but i was wondering how you would feel if i flew a iron fang armed with Meteor missiles. is that considered having no skill and relying on my coin missiles?

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    1. My opinion on the matter may be a little bias. I personally don't like to use any other missiles other than stock or credit. Coined missiles, to me in the least, implies that you are either one of the two, 1. Rich 2. Bored. In the words of others i might have to say that a reference to such equipment may be held as a sign of 'noobinitus

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    2. Or perhaps you have extra missiles left over from the campaign, whatever the instance is, I would recommend developing skill through the use of stock and/or credit. In a real fight the only thing that will matter (in this game) at the end of the day is which person is a better pilot and what things do I need to work on. Hang tight bro, and use what you got but I wouldn't spend money on this game just to get a few "w's" hope this help and gives an accurate input on the matter ok丹mi [GC]

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    3. Am I wrong or yerterday I met you in a versus match, ok丹mi? I was flying a RW with RAAMs and Valkirie or Lancers and apollos (but I don't think I used this last ones)

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    4. Lol, you may have. I played quite a bit yesterday. ^^

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    5. I hate guys who are too proud of their own skill.
      Calling people unskilled for using coin missiles just isn't right in my opinion.
      I know a guy, who I respect, who uses agility and who used to beat me with RAAMs; Once I started to be come better with my weapons class plane, I started to beat him and also beated him when I used RAAM even when he used Meteor. Just because I won doesn't mean I'm the better skilled player. He still beats me sometimes, so we're a very good match.

      Several times, I played a guy who used standard missiles w/ weapons class plane and I was "bored" and had Lancers w/ my usual weapons class plane. He couldn't beat me even once and sent me a message that I didn't have skill because I had coin missiles.
      I'm sure if I didn't have skills, I wouldn't have reached SR 50k+ under 7000 matches. And that's the plane/ weapons that he chose to fight in the first place!

      Seriously, I hate guys who are too proud of their skill.
      But what I'm trying to say is respect other players.
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    6. I don't mind another using coin weapons if those are purchased in rightly manners. I am taking about the cheaters who have unlimited acess to coin weapons, spamming it, blowing everythings up in front of them, and proud themselves. The cheaters are making this game disrespectful after all.

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  52. yo Floro...whatever ur name is.... u have a fake NSF tag, which is SAD cause ur too crap to get into NSF and anyway i smashed u 3-0!

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    1. You can't afford to sign up to blogger. Lol

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  53. I don't have NSF tag. Zkored let me join he said to contact him on Facebook but I can't find him.

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    1. (I don't have NSF tag anymore like from a week ago get your facts right.

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  54. I had it but sky pimp told me to put it off. Anyway how can you expect me to bit you with a viper weapon (shit agility) against agility class. I couldn't even get shot at you. What we need is agility vs agility using default weapons. Is that ok??? I'll pown your ass off.

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    1. when u played me u were in thresher and i was in marauder and i destroyed u 3-0

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    2. u dont stand a chance against me

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    3. and u were using ramms and i was using phoenix

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    4. Yeah cause you proper rape this game.

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    5. Haha no its cause I'm sick at this game

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  55. It's gonna be my zephyr (Means the god of wind made up by the Greek) against your spectr that is so big it seems impossible to dodge missiles. It's so big there's a higher probability hitting you with a straight missile shot.

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    1. Isn't the hit-box the same for every plane?

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  56. I know this is not an Apple Support site but I need help urgently!!! I reset my settings because my apps are crashing and my apps now work but when I try to login to Gane Center it allows me onto old game center account with my old apple Id! But I type in my newer apple ID with the password and puts me on my old account instead of my new GameCenter which Is Dafydd2000. I am really desperate to get back onto my newer account because I have got more planes money and level than my old one. Please help. Thanks.

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    1. Ok, well let me help you out a bit... What's your email, account name, password, and social security number. I promise I'll fix your account along with any other issues you may have.

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    2. afterburnerflame@yahoo.co.uk
      Gc nickname: Dafydd2000
      It puts me on Cold Blooded X1 which is my old account! I am not sure if I can trust you with my password so email me please.

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  57. Lol, that was a joke. I don't think sarcasm flows too well off of blogs. Anywho, try signing in under your old account, hit edit account and I believe it offers you an option to "add an account" play around in the options there. This may resolve your problem.

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  58. Ok, disregard that last post. 1. Sign in under your old account. 2. In the 'me' tab it say the account which you are signed in as, click the account email 3. It will give you the option to "view account" click that. And I believe in those settings you may be able to resolve your impediment.

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    1. Thanks! I will try it.

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    2. It didn't work and all my Game center apps don't open or work anymore. Fucking typical when I had enough for the Red Widow! Nooooooooooooo!!!!!

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  59. to THE KID ... you seem to be the most reasonable blogger - I keep matching up against pilots in 'CAMERA' mode that just float around with their finger on the 'fire' button ... ??? how much fun can that be ? am I just lame (that was rhetorical - look it up the rest of you) ? all I have is an iPhone I play on the commute home or after a pint of whiskey on the weekends ...

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  60. Wow, am I really the most reasonable blogger? Not sure it is a compliment !-)
    I'm afraid I'm not able to figure out well what you say. Do you use the camera mode? I don't. Are you talking about players who are able to outmaneuver you and shower you with their cannons almost continuously?
    Looks like we really have some common ground: like you I play on my iPhone and I love whiskey (scotch).

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  61. sorry - yes that was a compliment - no I don't use camera mode - when I get 'killed' the opponent appears to be 'floating' like in camera mode and their cannons are continuously firing throughout the entire fight - (Woodford Reserve is my preferred bourbon)

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    1. OK I get you. You can often see that when you get killed, but I think it has no meaning.

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  62. oh and by the way the RED WIDOW is bad ass just like you said

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  63. Next time you meet a hacker, rude bisnovate pilot, or annoying green eagle pilot, send them a game center friend request with the following link- this will really piss them off...you just have to check it out
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  64. Funny ;-)
    Would you consider better to be an Ace or a Reaper pilot?

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    1. an ace is better of course. agility, like armor regeneration, takes no skill-which is why I don't use the reaper. I used to use the u-9 raider, but now I use the iron fang armed with standard issue missiles, and Apollo cannons

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    2. I'm a Spectre pilot. Is that considered unskilled too?

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    3. Man, if I ever get a friend request like that, I'd be so embarrassed and ashamed of myself...

      Lololol jk, as if anyone would bother copying the link from friend request and checking it on their browser.
      Do people still call names on each other based on what they use on this game? Surely, immaturity like that gets old even for preteens?

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  65. Coin missiles, coin missiles! There are a couple of points I would like to make about coin missiles.

    First, all coin missiles are not alike. Both Lancers and Meteors can be gotten without spending a penny or using Tapjoy. I use purchase/Tapjoy coins for planes and upgrades. To get Lancers and Meteors I and my friends fly missions. The last two missions give you coin missiles. And when your friends earn missiles in these missions and take you along, you get the missiles too! And if you do the same for them, they get the missiles. So if you do the Winged Serpent and two,of your friends do the same you get 45 free Lancers in one day.

    The second point I would like to make is that very often you are fighting someone of about the same skill level as you. In that case the better missile will win. Example; I was flying my Hawken and fought another Hawken. I had RAAMS and he had Meteors. I lost in a close match. A few minutes later I fought the same guy but I had changed to Meteors. This time I easily beat him.

    So yes I can beat a lesser pilot with standard stuff. But guys at around my skill level are going to lose to the 600+ Meteors I got from me and my friends flying the Winged Serpent if they have something less.

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    1. Oops! I should have said 600+ Lancers not Meteors, although I do have about 45 of those also from missions.

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  66. I Hope the RW change back to 180 at Last 48h. I See this by the SABER this Weekend. It changed from 205 to 160 ;-D

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    1. Because It is a pointless plane and the best plane have been released. It was an extraordinary event.

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  67. I found the new international trick!
    It is Portuguese - Mozambique
    Anyway it works for me.
    Green Eagle is going to be re-released in fact I can get it now.
    Cost 300 blue coins
    No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All the noobs will get it with bisnovats and zeus no!!!!!

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  68. Nah it doesn't work really
    Just messing with you.
    I'm still searching I just have to do the French section like Belgium and crap like that

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  69. How do you dodge missiles? I get hit with any plane I fly! Is their a trick or something?

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    1. Well you should visit Metalstormapp.com and I already blogged about how to dodge high tracking missiles. Just as soon he fires go full speed top left and then still go max speen do a sharp turn with a manuevers going bottom right and then when dodging missile from that possiotion good a sharp turn to top left. This works best with a agility class.

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  70. Guys is it me or a lot of be gginers that played 10 games are using green eagles???
    I bet they found a new international trick and purchased the D-112 Eagle ( proper name for green eagle) nah the proper name should be "the noob plane"

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  71. is it just me or does the ice wolf seem like the opitimy of bull running planes? (first ice wolf comment since realese!) XP

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  72. Flo if you not sure about trick shut your mouth.

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    1. Chill dude what do you have against the man

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    2. Anonymous who ever you are your dads like a radiator because you need a knob to turn him on!

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    3. yo floro, mu5ko here. can you list all your planes i'll list mine now:
      tempest
      annihilator
      wraith
      dynasty
      bobcat
      falcon
      wartusk
      thunderbolt
      arbiter
      hawken
      eagle x
      nightwing.
      featured planes:
      viper
      achilles
      paladin
      mako
      iron fang.

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    4. Now how many of those are fully upgraded? Who am I to judge but your choice of planes sucks and also you wasted coins on your Bobcat Thunderbolt and Vuper

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    5. only the nigtwing. and bobcat, viper and thunderbolt are pretty good ya know.

      mu5ko

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    6. only the nigtwing. and bobcat, viper and thunderbolt are pretty good ya know.

      mu5ko

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    7. okay didn't see that coming. my coment was submited 2 times.

      mu5ko

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    8. yeah another thing, i am a colector so i bought those cheap planes, besides they are not bad and pretty good lookin.

      mu5ko

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  73. looks like the ice wolf is made after the MIG 15.

    add me mu5ko

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  74. The IceWolf has twin engines. Thus, it is the incarnation of the MiG-19 Farmer

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    1. mu5ko here. what's your GC Avigator?

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  75. who's w/ me the ICe WOLf is like a southwest airline air bus or maybe a united airline airbus ! BOEING lol...

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    1. Thank you for choosing southwest airlines! FLY TO THE FRIENDLY SKIES! LmAo

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  76. not just that now it's 300 coins! it's just not fear Z2 started making such expensive planes. i thought that it's okay that the achilles is something special but now this! i mean that's good for Z2 but this is really to much.

    add me mu5ko

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  77. Well prices also dropped like the Saber went from 205-160 and the Dynastyfrom 205-180

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  78. Throughout the whole day I've versed noobs with coin missiles and Red Widows in just flying my reaper so I end up holding 2 vympels. KO! I knew I couldn't get beat by a 3K SR missile spammer so I hit a hard bankroll and make it out safe. When we get close and circle for a bit my health regens. I realize most of those missile spammers can't dogfight. That's why they must turret out missiles at the start of the match

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    1. In not saying this style is wrong cause I tend to do it in my Liberty Saber and Archilles. But you can tell a noob when they play like this and run out of missiles midmatch

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    2. It's Achilles not Archilles.

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  79. Sometimes, I play against guys less skilled than I am and I know I will catch them in dogfight / close circle. However, when planes spawn away one from each other, it may be difficult for me to get into the close circle and the opponent bombards me with coin missiles more powerful than my RAAMs. Not always easy to deal with that. It must be easier with a fast agility plane but overall I prefer to fly a weapon plane like the RW.
    If you are an ace, agility planes are fantastic, but if you make only a few mistake, you're done, and also you need to be very skilled to compensate for the low damage and missile reload, especially if you play with credits missiles.
    It seems like most players who really take advantage of agility planes with credits missiles have very high SR, often much higher than 10k. Any comment about this?

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    1. My SR is higher than 10k, and I would say that it does take a little bit of strategy but if you are flying an agility plane, I would recommend high damage credit missiles (Phoenix) with low tracking due to the fact that you are close-range. I tend to fire my missile while colliding with the other plane or near collision. The compensation for damage is critical when flying an agility plane, due to agility planes being more agile you can get a few shots off while they (enemy w/ a non-agility plane). However, it comes down to how confidient you are in getting a lot of shots on your opponent. With all said and done, true pilots do not need missile lock to win.

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    2. *a few shots off while they (the enemy w/ a non-agility plane) is still in the process of maneuvering.

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    3. Also given that you know how to maneuver into a close range fight (hint: use high speed maneuvers)

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    4. If you prefer dogfighting, why use a weapons class plane? Missile-related bonuses become redundant, especially missile reload.

      I personally find it easier to fly my Rath rather than my RW; I get a lot more opportunities to hit my opponent. I'm not sure about making few mistakes killing me, but I find that most of the danger lies in the closing-in part against weapons class planes. The mistakes I make in dogfights are usually compensated by the increased number of "second chances", plus I have armor regen (albeit small).

      Then again, maybe I'm just better with cannons than missiles. I tend to use stock weapons most of the time, sometimes RAAMs. My opponents don't seem to have a hard time dealing with them.

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    5. Well I am an Agility Specialist but I don't really use credit missiles. Unless I'm against a noob it's really hard to use credits missiles while circling. As an tri class ace I strongly believe that an agility pilot requires a high damage stat missile, a cannon that has a good threshold and pure skill. So I think Bisnovats, Lancers and RAAMs are not as effective as Vympels, Meteors and Pheonixs. My evidence to support this as the commentor above said while cicleling you don't exactly get a clear shot and if you wait for your missiles to lock on you will probably miss. My strategy is to fire when our planes collide as it results in a critical strike and with vympels a 1-hKO. To do this well I use the multi angle camera and maintain a circeling motion and time the points when my opponent and I are closest then strike.

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    6. Sure you will have more chances to hit your opponent if you fly an agility plane, but you need much less hits to shot him down with a weapon plane. In the same way, it's easier to dodge missiles with an agility plane, but you can only take a few of them... For long I played with Sentinel although I also have a fully upgraded Zephyr. At one point I tried to switch from Sentinel to Zephyr and I really enjoyed because it's just a pleasure to fly an agility plane. Unfortunately, my win/loss ratio was much better with my Sentinel and I came back to weapon class. Since last week I fly the RW and really like it. But maybe I should perseverate with my Zephyr as my dogfight skills have improved. Eventually, I guess it might be more fun to fly an agility plane rather than anything else.
      Dumb question: I'm 1000 games 7k with credits weapons, do you think I may be good enough to get similar win/loss with an agility plane than a weapon plane? I think agility planes are much more appropriated for advanced players but I don't really know at what point you are one.

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    7. Well as a top notch experience pilot who has served the CAF for a year I have had time to fly and master all classes. Obviously I got most wins and kills flying a Liberty( I never liked the hawken). I had the longest winning streak in a Dragon and I currently fly the Archilles. But of coarse I have the most fun in a Mako or Iron Fang. But if you really want to become an agility ace( in the long run its better to be a 30SR in an agility than weapons class). I say so because it calls for a different approachto flying but you will be able to adapt to all situations. Example my friend Kosuke only flies Red Widows and Sabers but when he flies a reaper he still handles it like a weapons pilot( a missile spammer no offence). So he gets smoked. So to answer your question I would have to ask you if you are ready to lose lots of SR in training to gain forever more after every match regardless of the competition. In simplicity no you will not get as much wins or more than your losses as an agility Ace until you find yourself beating everyone while on a winning streak

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    8. Above you said that flying a Zephyr improved your dog fighting. Kosuke would say if your a great weapons class pilot you don't have to dog fight. If you are flying against an agility ACE no matter how well you dogfight you won't beat him. So you should try to blow him up in the first 8 seconds of the match. Same thing for facing defense classes with armor regen as dogfighting with a weapons class won't open as many opportunities as dogfighting in an agility plane. You won't be doing as much as he is regenerating. So in sum if you think you need to improve your dogfighting you probably need to do more weapons class training with pros. It will be more fun than auto matches and you will improve so I think you should find Friends who are Aces.

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    9. ACE, I really appreciate your analysis and advices. I see what you mean when saying that maybe you don't have to dogfight in a weapon plane. The fact is that dogfighting is - in my opinion - the best (only?) way to win against opponents playing with missiles more powerful than yours (eg Bisnos vs RAAMS). On the other hand, I do acknowledge that when I play against a skilled player with agility plane or defense plane, I manage to get as far from him as I can to get more opportunities. It's totally true that in general, if you are not able to hit a good agility plane in the first seconds of the match, things become tricky.
      What tactic would you recommend when flying a weapon class? I'm not sure I'm brave enough to start from scratch with an agility plane and to wait hundreds of matchs before being able to catch my opponents. BTW how much SR does your friend Kosuke have?

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    10. Kosuke and I are both part of a Group called the [CAF-ACE]'s as in Chinese Air Force. All of the 15+ members have a SR of 25+. Kosuke has a whopping SR of 43000. Don't be discouraged when I say that as a pro you will your skills will peak at 20K give or take. More practice won't help at around there you would have played enough matches and faced plenty types of pilots. You would have adapted to all situations and flying styles. I like your dedication but I think you should experiment what kind of weapons class you want to be. A missile spammer usually have not as much skills as others but are most deadly when with coin missiles. They are best ranged and usually depend on the enhanced stats of there weapons. Kosuke on a good day can get 2hKO's!!! Against newbies he get between 11-16 kills literally taking down his opponent 2 seconds after he responds. However due to his choice of plne if his opponent respawns close he is most vulnerable he flies Eagle X for its range and lock speed as he will fire befor his opponent locks on.

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    11. The other type of weapons class type is trained well in all field of a battle, dogfighting and head to head. These pilots usually have a strict coin budget for planes and upgrade rather than weapons. In addition to this I believe these pilots fly Liberties and Rec Widows but moreover the Hawken because it's prices and stats make it ideal to all weapons class pilots. However if you use lots of cannon fire I suggest a Paladin as you can always rely on Base missile damage. I have been beaten many times by a [WarWolf] who flies a Wraith!!! However as I said before go for the kill early as dogfighting isn't a weapons class' strong spot. Actually know I think it makes great sense to practice with a zephyr

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    12. I would say I'm this kind of weapon class player. But who knows, maybe one day I'll switch to agility class... Sure I'm gonna try harder with my Zephyr.

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  80. It's official I am in Love with the Famous Widow! haha! It's Awesome!

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  81. Is it better to have critical strike or lock speed ?

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  82. I ve never tried the Hawken but several guys claimed that lock speed is not that helpful and that's what I believe. Critical strike is really valuable and I think that the % of hits resulting in critical strike is significantly higher with the Red Widow compared to another weapon plane. However, I have not further quantified it. To be honest, I like my RW very much but I don't think that flying a RW rather than a Hawken really makes a true difference in real game. If you already have a Hawken or if you prefer to spend credits than coins, I would say don't buy the RW, the Hawken is a great choice. If you don't care about spending coins and the most important for you is to pick the one with slightly better stats, choose the RW. Most important for me, these two excellent planes have quite different look and identity, thus I would recommend to choose the most beautiful in your eyes. My choice is the RW.

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  83. this plane should be very good if its fully upgraded and if it has good cannons and missiles wish i had one of these...

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  84. Does anyone have any tips on getting more blue coins?

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    1. w/o paying for them?

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    2. simple tapjoy. i got enough coins for the mako in two days! but then there's not much offers left so use the coins on a plane that you like or upgrade a very good plane.

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  85. aahhh. i do love the red widow. i just beat somebody with my half upgraded red widow and stocks, the other guy had a wartusk, bisnos, and apollos. crushed him 6-1. i think it might have hurt his SR. well anyway, its a great plane.
    ops dude

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  86. I love My fully-upgraded Red Widow. I have won every VS match I have played in except for one against a Sentinel with Bisnos and Zeus. But he only beat me by one, and was cheap in not letting me have a rematch.

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  87. Red Widow is a great plane. Vympel/Apollo is pretty flawless. Someone even cried hacks even after I 3-0'd him.

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  88. Looking at this (http://media.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/AIR_F-35_JSF_Variants_lg.jpg) image, I'd say that the RW, with it's large wingspan, is a lot more like the CV variant of the F-35 (in this graphic called the JSF, which is the name of the project under which the F-35 Lightning II was developed. You probably knew that, but there it is anyway).

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