Thursday, June 27, 2013

MV-23 Warlord


Energy:  Upper end of the agility class
Damage:  Tied as best in class for damage
Agility:  2nd in fleet for agility
Lock Speed:  Best in class by far for missile lock speed

This is a very intriguing new agility plane - good boosts - should be a strong contender in the class.

To get this plane you need to complete campaign 4 of Metalstorm Aces.  From what I have seen, this will be a fair investment of time playing Aces to earn this.

Overall I don't really see the strategy from Z2 - pull players away from one of their games to play the other.  Both MSO & Aces are so similar, they may be cannibalizing users from MSO to populate Aces.

This plane has been added to the Comparison Guide  and also to the Fleet at a Glance - check it out!

79 comments:

  1. Glad you've posted this! I just got this today and fully upgraded it. And it actually does pretty good! I mean, everything on this plane is really good except for speed! If it had a speed boost in there it would be even better! But hey, who cares, it still kicks butt!

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    1. Hey how did you get the plane. I am sure I did it right but I couldn't claim it.

      Tim

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    2. MetalstormwingmanmanJune 30, 2013 at 3:13 PM

      Plane is a real life F-5 Tiger.

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    3. No. It is Mitsubishi F-2.

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    4. OK, definitely not the F-2 as that's an F-16 clone with its iconic under-fuselage air intake. I'm thinking a Northrop F-20 Tigershark, the single engine version of the F-5 Tiger. The air intakes aren't quite right though along with that ridge going from the cockpit to the tail.

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    5. Not F-2, not F-20. The real life model is FC-1/JF-17 thunder. A joint project by China & Pakistan. It's also the second jet flight in service with DSI air intakes (The first one is F-35).

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  2. NO! It says you have to play metalstorm aces. That sucks.

    Tim

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    1. I got it! It is really easy. (1) Buy Metalstorm Aces.(2) Complete campaign number 4 which is Dangerous Waters. (Have to complete it). (3)YOU GOT IT!

      Tim

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  4. This plane, actually has some pretty-good stats on it (Except for speed) -- plus it looks cool too! why don't you have a picture of the "tk-42.karma" on your site? plus, you should add all of the new planes, to the Appropriate classes listed on the right of this webpage... Just a friendly reminder, thanks :)

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  5. The MV-23 Warlord owes its shape to the Chinese-Pakistani CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC/PAC_JF-17_Thunder

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  6. My bad -- i saw the TK-42 Karma on your site:) And here it is in Survival mode action! http://youtu.be/gUwuudG7xao

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  7. it says you need to finish the first 4 campaigns. ive completed 6 and still cant unlock it. also I am not getting achievements in aces either in gamecenter

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    1. Same happened to me! I completed the first 5 campaigns and I still can't unlock it. I really want it too. I put in a support ticket to Z2 yesterday but they haven't done anything yet.

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  8. Here's my review of the plane:
    http://youtu.be/COpIRiyHWwk

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    1. Hello Mr.Willis,
      I enjoyed your review of this plane.

      FYI- I had the opportunity to verse against you a couple of times.
      However, both times you logged off.
      How disappointing! Maybe because I dodged your missiles and returned with a missle or two accompanied with cannons. lol

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    2. Wanker, show some respect. How many training videos have you made?

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    3. i happen to agree with wanker (hhhahahha). no restect given to playes how pssy out of games. dito for blue coin missile usesers.

      wanker #2

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    4. Mr. Anonymous. I have no idea who you are. Please provide your Game Center name. We can play a few games and I will record them.

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    5. I support Mr. Willis and appreciate his review of the plane. I think if anyone wants to post disrespectful comments, they should have the courage to do so through an identifiable username.

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    6. Brad Willis, can you do a review of the Firefly please. I am planing to buy it so I want to hear how good it is. Also can you do a review of the R-19 Aurora please. I want to know which one is better.

      Tim

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    7. Can I verse you? My gamecenter name is TTT439. I am a new player at the rating 6000. I use my hawken mostly and credits missile. So can you not go at me that hard.

      Tim

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    8. errrrrr i happen to versus a certain bwilliw who is 80k sr. you are not as good as your vids suggest because you mostly record yourself winning against noobs. how about you post some of your losses or when you are being outclassed like your games vs me. you didnt hit me while i killed you twice with stock weapon and i win for many game. you should record your losses and be open to critism. cheers.

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  9. Sup, Brad, i really enjoy your review videos! could you do a review of the TK-42 Karma? plus, play it in VS against other heavy-hitters!!

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    1. I'd be glad to but I don't own Karma.

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    2. Brad I saw your videos, they are great and you are an ace. I'm 12k and I realized the gap between players like you and me. Practice makes perfect I guess!
      I was asking in this topic what players think about agility planes with evasion, especially the Iron Fang. What do you think? I currently fly a Spectre with credits weapon and I was wondering if it would be worth switching to the Iron Fang (when available...). My main problem is to evade missiles and the Iron Fang has the best evasion.
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      The Kid

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  10. Go here for help to unlock http://forums.z2.com/viewtopic.php?t=46996&p=515906

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  11. Here what I did:

    - Kill process (aka force quit) all Metalstorm
    - Log out of Game Center
    - Launch Aces and it should prompt you to log into Game Center
    - Log in to Game Center, confirm that you want to link your Z2 and Game Center account. Wait a few seconds and then close Aces
    - Launch MSO and your Warlord is already there

    But don't forget to complete Campaign 4 and create a Z2 account!

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  12. from DavidFosterWallace
    I played MSAces for a day and a half before I figured out how to qualify for the free plane and even then had to use Z2 support to unlock the plane. Here's what I did.

    Firstly I agree with Lugg that MSAces is sluggish; high on scenery and low on plane response....maybe matches aeronautics in a more realistic way but I feel like I'm playing underwater and one day of it has negatively affected my MSWM play. Its mildly entertaining, but I wish the pace was much quicker.

    In MSAces You need to finish the 4th "Campaign" not the 4th Level...bad choice of words in the MSWM plane offering. The 4th campaign is called "Dangerous Waters".

    I got stuck 3/4 way through Campaign 3 and I realized that advancement is contingent upon getting awarded "stars". I then realized that in earlier campaigns I could advance w/o winning all stars. Needless to say I backtracked and gobbled them up to trade in for plane performance. Once I realized that I just followed each campaign segments' goals and advanced rapidly through Campaign 4.

    Now here's the tricky part. If your Z2 account isn't crosslinking MSWM with MSAces (why folks...I don't know) you can't get the free plane in MSWM after completing Campaign 4...unless you follow these instructions...

    http://www.z2.com/support/metalstorm-online/current-issues/im-having-trouble-unlocking-the-warlord-in-metalstorm-online

    Caveat....those instructions didn't work for me. I had to do this:
    1) Log off GameCenter
    2) Force quit GameCenter, MSWM, and MSAces.
    3) Shut down I-Phone
    4) Reset my Z2 account password on their support site
    5) Restart IPhone
    6) Start MSAces
    7) If you don't get a message about logging on and crosslinking your Z2 account and your GameCenter account, hit the Z2 symbol in the upper right hand corner and try to log on...hopefully it will give you the option of crosslinking accounts and you can go into MSWM and get your plane.

    good luck!

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    1. It worked, thanks!

      By Cyclone

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  13. Hey All...Z2 Support here...The following link is set of instructions that we're giving players experiencing this. It seems to be working for almost all of the people we speak with after a try or two.

    http://z2.com/support/metalstorm-aces/current-issues/im-having-trouble-unlocking-the-warlord-in-metalstorm-online

    No matter how you go about it, the trick is to Associate your Game Center nickname in MSO with your Z2 Username in MSA. If you're still having issues after these steps..."Submit a Support Ticket" at Z2.com/support and we can help out.

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    1. Hey Matt Z2, your video flurry is broken. I've been wathing smule 15+ times and I'm not getting any credit. The burst is not over, but I stopped watching. Please fix as I want to earn enough coins to get the GE by next month. ongpin

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    2. What video are you guys talking about? Please tell me because I really want enough coins to get some planes next month.

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  14. I followed vinh31's instruction and it works. I will have to save enough blue coings to update this plane.
    Next purchses will be the Spectre, Green Eagle and Reaper.

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  15. For most...to unlock this plane u have to PLAY THE NO4 CAMPAIGN IN METALSTORM ONLINE ...I REPEAT METALSTORM ONLINE and then play a little of aces but not campaign 4 in aces took me a while to figure out and just onlocked it..pretty sweet plane and I have half way upgraded

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  16. For those who cant claim the plane,i think you all need a Z2 account

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  17. MSA is awesome. Not P2W, so much less buggy and the better weapons users won't win. Who cares about tracking when you can destroy the enemy missiles with cannons?

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  18. Metalstorm Aces is all right but, it feels sluggish when i'm
    playing it. But still, it's not a bad game. I still like to play MSWM
    better so, no offense.


    Sky Stalker ~

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  19. Why make it so complicated Z2???!! Work out some other way to entice people to play your other games. I cant get the Warlord either and I am up to way past campaign 4 and up to level 40!! You have over promised and under achieved. I did exactly what you told me - looks like you are failing a few people.

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    1. It work for me. You just have to create a Z2 accounf ingame at MSA and connect it with you gamecenter ID. It even works afterwards if you already completet campaign NO4.

      And just in case here the link again. Follow these instuctions:

      http://www.z2.com/support/metalstorm-online/current-issues/im-having-trouble-unlocking-the-warlord-in-metalstorm-online

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  20. I agree with sky stalker

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  21. Since recently my plane of choice is the Spectre for vs. I enjoy the agility and speed compared with the weapon planes I was playing before. However, I still find difficult to dodge missiles - especially coins missiles. My SR is 12k playing with credits weapons.
    I was wondering if extra evasion is really helpful in some agility planes like Zephyr, Marauder and Iron Fang? What do you guys think? Is it worth buying and upgrading one of these planes when you already have a Spectre like me.
    I would be interested to get some input from (skilled) players owning Spectre or Reaper on one hand, and Marauder, Zephyr or Iron Fang on the other hand for comparison.

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    1. Marauder is indeed very hard to hit, I enjoyed flying it very much and was very good in it. Evasion takes away from your opponent's lock speed, helpful against short to mid range lock shot opponents but useless against aces who will lay the missiles in your path without locking on. Also the Critical Strike boost of Marauder won me quite a few games. It sounds like very little but does a lot. However, I currently use mostly Rath and Striker. Rath is more agile than Marauder as well as Striker and it has DMG Resist whereas Striker packs one hell of a punch. Given the choice between Marauder and Iron Fang I'd choose Marauder. Not just because it is essentially free. I have both and like it better.

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    2. Also, there is no single answer to your question. They are completely different planes. One person may find a plane suits their style and another may not feel that way. There is no best plane in MSO, that is part of what makes this game so nice.

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  22. And does anyone know if the Iron Fang is planned to be released again? Was it available recently?
    I'd like to give it a shot because as it is an atypical agility plane with interesting stats and nice design.

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    1. Open another account and you can buy the Red widow and Iron Fang 2 planes for 220 blue coins

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  23. That sucks because I have plenty of coins and medal on my current account. Is there another way to get the Iron Fang?

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    1. You can wait until it comes out.

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  24. I've completed level 4 in Aces just to get this plane and as yet not had it.
    j onjjon

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  25. You don't complete level four you have to complete CAMPAIGN four.

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  26. Does anybody have any tips for dodging the missles at the beginning of wave 15-25 in Survival Mode? Do I have to fly high in the air or close to the land?

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    1. It really doesn't matter. I would use a plane with missile reload and high damage so you could kill enemies faster so you don't die. (I use my F-51 Hawken) or use a defense plane that has armor regen. I used my Dragon for going to high levels but my Hawken to get medals and credits faster. But it really doesn't mater about flying close to land or not.

      Tim

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  27. I would like to say thank you to Z2, Tapjoy and Flurry for the recent blue coins from the videos. I now have coins to purchase (not upgrade)Reaper, Mako and soon Saratoga, Spectre and GE.
    Once gain THANK YOU!!!

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  28. I'm pretty fed up with playing 80% of games against coin missiles fellows and those days I was ready to leave the game (I already stopped playing for a couple of months for the same reason in the past). As many already said, missile coins are really overpowered and ruin the game. I have always been playing with credits missiles but I would not be against the possibility to pay for better missiles if the type of missile you are shooting was not the main determinant of the outcome of versus games. I'm an honest 13k, which may not be exceptionnal, but still means something in the game. I am rarely defeated by opponents playing credits weapons like me, but in contrast I rarely win against players equipped with coins weapons (especially the F...... bisnos). Most of the time, it is totally impossible to dodge bisnos (and lancers too), even with an agility plane, although I have no problem to evade credits missiles most of the time. To top it of, these missiles inflict a lot of damage. As a result of this, I often get shot down just a few seconds unless the spaw is very favorable. This is very frustrating for me and I guess for many of you too. It would be time for Zi2 to make thing a bit different I think.
    Another complaint: the lag, it's terrible. For me it looks like it's worse now than ever.
    For me, the game is otherwise excellent, making these negative aspects even more regrettable.

    Could you read me Zi2...

    The Kid

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    1. Like yourself, I have the same sentiment.

      A couple of things that may help are reading the materials to the right under the General Tips,and watching youtube videos.

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  29. You are right, I did that. Especially, Brad Willis videos are helpful (thanks to him). It helped me to improve my evasion skills, but I find still very difficult to evade bisnos and lancers. I would be curious to know if some experimented fellows would have the capacity to evade bisnos shot from long distance on a regular basis. In fact, it seems like your best chance is to keep in a position where your opponent can't target you, but if he can fire a couple of bisnos, you are done.
    Also, coin missiles are very overpowered if you compare the stats of bisnos to those of plane. What means +20% evasion when it comes to evade a missile with +250% tracking?
    By the way, Brad Willis thank you again. Could you post a review of the Iron Fang on You Tube. I fly this plane since recently and really love. Curious to know what think players more experimented than me.
    The Kid

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  30. New forecast from July 15th, different from the last one.
    No P-79 and Green Eagle.

    http://www.yyzo.com/read.php?tid=93365&fpage=0&toread=&page=1

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    1. No Saratogo, either!!!

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  31. very disappointed.. i will not just collect coins

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  32. Please translate in english.
    By the way, Tapjoy does not work for me since recently. Do you other players meet the same problem?

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    1. 07-15 WM-10 Striker
      07-22 F-410 Zephyr
      07-29 RA-M84 Titan
      08-05 Red Widow
      08-12 Firefly
      08-19 FA-88 Hurricane
      08-26 P-33 Helix
      09-02 R-19 Aurora
      09-09 FA-12 Liberty
      09-16 TK-44 Nova
      09-23 Firefly
      09-30 NV-7 Sparrow

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    2. 8/20 and 9/23 Firefly release twice with in a moth?

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    3. I own a firefly and it's pretty good. I've never armed it with coin missiles, but versed lancers and bisno, and it is awesome.

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  33. Not fair for Z2 to allow certain planes available to certain few!!!

    But, hey, its a free game. I've been able to accumulate 10+ agility class planes without dropping is a single penny. With this view in mind, thanks Z2 and Tapjoy.

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  34. I'm a newbie here. How does a person know when to backflip? Some of the weapon class players are so good at it. Or maybe, how can an agility class player counter this technique?

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    1. This is the same newbie who posted above. I just played with weapons class pillot with 35K sk and coin weapons with my agility class. The games were either a draw or win my way. You just need energy, speed, and credit weapons.

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  35. I own Spectre, Iron Fang, and Zephyr, all fully upgraded.
    If I have to pick between Agility (like Zephyr or Vindicator) or Speed (like Iron Fang), my choice is speed. Speed and evasion really help for dodging missiles. Of course, the best is to have both agility and speed like the Spectre... In addition the Spectre has extra-energy, which is very helpful. However, the lack of extra energy is not that a big deal if you are careful.
    Evasion (especially Iron Fang and also Marauder or Zephyr) helps a lot, especially combined with speed. If these features help you to evade just one or two missiles more, it makes a big difference at the end, contrary to a little extra armor or damage resist (Reaper, Spectre). This may be particularly true against Dragons or Green Eagles. Clinical strike should not be dismissed, as it may be very valuable, probably more than a little extra damage (Spectre).
    In all, no plane is perfect but my favorite is currently the Iron Fang. I guess the Marauder and Saratoga must be great too although I never tested them.
    My top ranking for agility planes:
    1- Iron Fang
    2- Saratoga
    3- Spectre and Rath ex-aeaquo
    5- Marauder
    6- Reaper

    You will probably disagree !-)

    Olrik

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    1. At times, evasion does not help when being shot by cannons. :)

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  36. Sorry I was meaning " contrary to a little extra armor or damage resist (Reaper, Vindicator)." and what I find particularly useful against Dragons and GE is critical strike of course.

    Olrik

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  37. Yes I am ;-)
    Did we meet in the sky?

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    1. Yes, we did. You had the Iron Fang.
      When you are doing your bull runs,you need to line up the plane behind you or have a bisnovat that will track the enimy plane if you are misaligned.

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  38. LOL!!!
    I just versed against Chillin and Killin (100K SR) with this sky demond. He got caught using Matras (his usuall weapons of choice is the bisnobitch) and he could not damage my armor. He DISCONNECTED after dwindling down his armor with my coin weapons.

    HEY,BUDDY!!! DON'T be be CHEAP and BUY YOURSELF some SKILLS!!!
    Laughinggggggggg

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    1. this post makes me feel much better.
      yeah, skills beats coin missiles.

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  39. Hey Z2! You should deduct 50SR to those players that disconnects during a game and gives to the other player.

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    1. Yes, I'm also tired of players disconnecting during the match!!!

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  40. What you expect? Itz teh internetz. People just have no manners or etiquette nowadays.

    If they win, they pwned a noob. They're uber-cool. If the disconnect they didn't lose. :P

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