Wednesday, June 27, 2012

More Missile Avoidance Techniques

 



I wanted to talk more about missile avoidance techniques (rather than just keep posting re-run plane releases).  Lately, I've tried a technique for missile avoidance that seems to work pretty good and I thought that I would throw it out there for discussion:

High Speed/No Roll Avoidance:  When under fire, immediately go full throttle and bank hard.  I used to also throw in a roll as the missile gets close but have noticed that NOT rolling sometimes works better.  Maybe rolling decreases speed?  Also have noticed that going directly at your opponent is usually the worst approach (for agility class fighting) since you are relatively motionless from the incoming missiles point-of-view (even if you bank at the last second).

If I really don't want to get hit on the approach to an opponent, I try to go at about a 45 degree (or greater) angle towards them.  This makes my lateral motion with respect to incoming missiles much greater and they seem to miss more often.  I then make a sharp S turn and try to go the opposite 45 degree angle to avoid the 2nd volley of missiles. It takes a little longer to get close and into a circular engagement this way, but at times I've been able to get up close to weapons class planes with coin missiles without getting hit a single time.  (not all the time, but when I nail it, its pretty sweet).  Of note, this works best with a FAST agility class plane.

Also, another tip I've been trying is firing from a slightly nose up position at close range seems to be more successful than level or nose down.  (with your opponent slightly beneath you when in close range). 

For flying weapons class,  if you ARE going to get hit, remember to roll right before impact as weapons class has 40% reduction in damage when hit during a maneuver.

Any other innovative techniques for missile avoidance?  Lets hear them. Can never get enough tips and skills in this area!

94 comments:

  1. I do find flying fast away from the opponet does help but only for certain planes, evasion and fast linear acceleration helps a lot

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  2. what i generally do is with agility planes, seems to work well with all but its generally best to have a fast, and agile plane (exa NOT iron fang, but it could work too) so i generally go straight at the bisno-spamming noob and when he fires a missle or 2 i go full throttle, (probably was anyway) and dive and roll at an angle away from the opponent. if the foe tracks my movement i pitch up, roll and head at the opposite angle of the first evasive tactic. i fly a spectre and it dosnt have an evasion bonus and i can avoid pretty much every missle they throw at me. (wish i had gotten the marauder) :( then i would have a decent evasion bonus too.

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  3. New International trick Swahili > tanzania green eagle back at 120000 credits start saving! New planes f 78 mantis and fa 109 lion!

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    1. Chill that dudes just giving a heads up works on my phone don't know why yours doesn't work.

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    2. 37500 creds to go!

      mu5ko

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    3. It didn't work for me, you guys are probably lying about the backdoor trick.

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    4. NO WAY!! IT REALLY WORKS! Except for the Green Eagle is 300 blue coins. The S-03 maurader is there as well. I had to try it a few times before it worked but I got to save up blue coins now *sigh* this is going to take a while. Anyone know any blue coin hacks?

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    5. Pics or it didn't happen.

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    6. Now can we please try to keep this as much of a secret as we can, and as far away from z2 as possible?

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    7. how does the backdoor trick work?

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    1. yo florovic could you list your planes.

      i am realy wondering whitch planes you have

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  5. I have every plane except
    Green Eagle
    Marauder
    Ice Wolf
    Achilles
    J-35 Dynasty

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    1. well i have the avhilles and the dynasty that you don't have.

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    2. I'm pretty sure you don't have the m16. It is like super old school when the game first came out ;P

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    3. First of all, thanks MS forever for the topic, I think what you say really make sense.
      Thanks for the international trick too :-) But it looks like it doesn't work for me.
      So they release the GE... I would say I'm not very excited because I would not buy it even if it was not so expensive. A few months ago, I was happy to buy the Dragon, which helped me to get passed the famous wave 20 in survival but that's all. Flying a Defense plane in vs mode is not that fun for me. But it may be good that they end up releasing it. So many players were waiting for it... It's true that it has kind an unfair side, but I also appreciate to fight against a defense plane sometimes, variety is something positive I think. The last time I fought against a Green Eagle, I was in my Red Widow and the guy was 2 or 3k above my SR, both playing with RAAMS and I got him 2-1. That was a lot of fun.
      I think it's a bit sad that the "usual price" for a top plane is now 300 coins. Not only you have to buy the plane, but also upgrade it. Thank you Tapjoy...

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    4. Floro, what is your "top 3" in each class? Which one do you prefer above all?

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    5. This is shit. Z2 is going too far. First the bisnovates missiles, and now the green eagle????? I am about to quit this game as I do not find fighting a plane whose armor just regenerates so quickly fun. I have a hard time convincing myself to waste my ammo on dragons and ravens and now the green eagle?????? Z2, I don't care if you rename the green eagle, or make it super expensive, because as long as it will be released, I'm quitting. This game use to be fun, but now z2 is pushing it. They are spending week after week on planes with nothing but nice color themes, and when they aren't doing that, they are re-releasing planes.

      ...what they are doing here is re-releasing all the planes (even the ones that are too good and ruin the game) so that players who are addicted will be forced to buy better missiles.soon, z2 will probobly be releasing some even better missiles and cannons for, like, 15 coins with stats like +150 damage, +80 missile tracking +20 lock range.

      ...they are just balancing better planes, with better missiles, forcing you to buy better planes in order to survive, and buy better missiles to be competitive with planes such as the green eagle. They should just ban it from versus mode or something, or even better, change the stats to: +10 armor regeneration, +10 armor regeneration, +15 energy -10 speed

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    6. lol you're so full of shit.

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      09Florovicj June 1, 2012 at 1:09 pm #

      Vipers are si rare. I met it once while using my green eagle. 2-0 he was using rams. I was like WTF how much DMG has that plane? It is low in DMG. Probably a hidden feature.
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      http://metalstormapp.com/planes/f-14-viper/#comments

      inb4thatwasoldaccount

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    7. whitch plane is M-16

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  6. Hey guys are you pulling my leg about the trick? Actually it doesn't work for me!
    If not please tell us more about the new planes to be released!

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    1. Did you change your calendar setting to buddhist?

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  7. Can't get it even as a buddhist.
    Buddhists in Tanzania might represent a very small circle ;-)

    What stats do the new planes have? Are they modern or old fashioned plane?

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  8. Green eagle=waste of ammo=no fun=being re-rereleased= z2 concerned=z2 release better missiles=z2 re-release other planes=players get bored=z2 release better planes=players flying other planes complain=z2 releases better missiles


    ...told you this is shit...bullshit

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    1. Let me make this even more simple.

      Birth = Life = Live = Death

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  9. Maybe you're right about the Green Eagle, I don't know. One problem is that given the price of that f@@@ing plane, it seems likely that it will be owned mainly by cheaters. And cheaters have Bisnos... and GE + Bisnos= hard to handle.
    But before getting desperate, check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo
    If you're still in the mood to quit MSMW, I would recommand you to switch to the "Draw something" app. Nothing about planes and fighting, but it really grows on you!

    But for now, please, who could let me know the statistics of the new planes? The trick doesn't work for me. If it does later, I'm gonna think about buying the Spectre.

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  10. It's funny that the GE has become the main subject in this topic dedicated to missiles avoidance. With that sucker, no need to avoid, you can take missiles!

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    1. there is no trick kid, there just bunch of punks f@ckin around and trolling in this blogsite!

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    2. I hope the developers in metalstorm wingman are just making this up to see if people really want the green eagle and what they would think of it was it released, because if so, I'd think twice about quitting-maybe the green eagle isn't really going to be released: )

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  11. Is the green eagle coins or credits?

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  12. The Kid:
    My top 3 agility planes are
    Rath
    Stilleto
    Zephyr
    Top 3 weapon class
    Saber
    Sentinel
    Liberty
    Top defence
    F-105 dragon
    Raven
    Nightwing

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    1. Interesting, you don't include Red Widow, Hawken, Reaper and Spectre?

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    2. In fact you are a dumb floro.

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    3. fight against him and you will see he is not a dumb. he is my GC friend to.

      mu5ko

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    4. Hey,I think we are friends too, Mu5ko.I'm Lonah 1

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    5. you got that lonah1 we are.

      mu5ko

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  13. Can ALL of you try to get a Life outside of MSW. There is alot more to Life than just playing your life away. Invest in yourself, family or other loved ones. STOP wasting time here talking about missile avoidance and green eagles like you are a fighter pilot in real life. God Bless you all

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  14. If anyone had success with the new trick, can please post the other phone settings (phone language, voice control language, keyboards...)? I tried Tanzania and buddish without success. Any help will be appreciated. Also could help to know the place/region in which are physically the people who can join the trick

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    1. It was just a foolish prank a troll

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    2. Can't be real, Green Eagle is still listed as hidden in the latest update and the price is 205 coins. Juck checked it myself.

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  15. Hey, Guys. Do you really believe those two fools? I didn't expect this from you, The Kid (no offense btw). They are only two and they don't even agree about GE's price! Ahahah this have a bit of pathetic! Please, if you want, the ones for who the trick worked or not, reply here saying if it worked or not (be honest not spamming), thanks.

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    1. Lol, alright you got me. I'll sack up. The International trick does not work. I just thought that the knowledge of a re-released Green Eagle would stimulate some little kiddos playing the game. Also, the reason why I stated a different price is because of two reasons, 1.) 300 blue coins, is the original price prior to its discontinuation and 2.) to initially trick the person who started this antic, nonetheless, to put an end to this, i'll restate that, there is no international trick.

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  16. You're right lol
    The mention of the name for the 2 new planes made the thing more credible for me!

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  17. Sherlock Holmes hits again lol. By the way this topic is one of the most useful in here, nice job, MetalStorm Forever!. May I know Why some people call you "Lugg"? Is that your GC? I'm just curious.

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  18. a shout out to janko florovic, u told me a marauder is a waste of time to buy, thresher is better, and the marauder has an oversized ballon on its back. now i'm hearing u say its ur #1 fav agility plane. whats up with that man?

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  19. A guy gave me 200,000 credits do what am I going to use them for? Plus I realised that it will be my favorite plane because I realise with which agility classes I'm good at

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  20. Yo Florovic! From an agility lover to another agility lover, do you think that the zephyr is worth the coins?

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    1. Definately but I rather wait for the second plane with the same evasion and better agility

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  21. lets talk mSW 4.1.3 update, the temporary boost "wtf" is this good for the noobs? buy it w/ creds and coins! what do you guys think of this..

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    1. I personally don't like that boost, it's just another way that z2 can get more money from us, but I am extremely happy that they are improving plane's spawn position. Maybe now I won't be dodging missiles like crazy after I spawn millions of miles away from an opponent using weapons class and bisovats. Another great thing is that they are supposedly fixing the bug where your opponent is shown to be using stock weapons, when in fact he has much more powerful weapons. In my opinion this update puts z2 two steps forward but three steps back because of the boosts.maybe they won't be as bad as I think they will be, we'll just have to wait and see........l..

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    2. temporary boost? sounds like fun! reminds me of an higly modidified JDM cars were you need 3 tanks of nitro's to compete and win, but wtf this is not racing cars, this is dog fighting... pwning every single plane in front of you, so let me ask this what are the options (eg) extra armor, extra regen, extra damage so on and so forth. pls can someone explain further i just don't quite understand lol.

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    1. not interested, nice color "WRB" just like my toy wrx :)

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    2. Another new plane will be out on July 2nd.

      AF-Y4 Saratoga (Agility) - Based on F15
      Energy 12%
      Speed 11%
      Agility 14%
      Evasion 7%

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    3. plane is not that bad at all, won 1-0 w/ my tempest .. m guessing its fully upgraded already or maybe not lol!

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    4. That's just making the marauder a ripoff

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  23. Ok 2 new featured planes Arrive, sorry guys i was late to post the cobalt coz I was on vacation. But anyways I'll Make it up there's another 1 the Saratoga like the guy post above, but mine w/ a pics . It cost 180 blue coins and will be out next week so as the Helix. So who wants to see it, the plane is beautiful w/ a american flag decals on it. Post a reply w/ your name pls not just some anonymous :)!

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  24. k, let's see it...
    i'll add it to my collection if i like it..

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  25. To all those pilots who absolutely DO NOT want the Green Eagle back, I want to hear form you on these questions I have. As you know, noobs love to load their GE with Bisnos and Zeus. What if you encounter a pilot who only has standards and is a clean fighter? I mean someone who doesn't use coin missiles and obviously does log lag teleport behind you and blow you up with one missile. Are they still unskilled? Also, what planes do you use? I don't mean what plane is a GE killer, I mean what is your go-to fighter for all matches?

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    1. I meant to say 'does not' lag...etc.

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    2. Mine is either my Thresher or my Cobalt.

      Cannon Ace ._.

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  26. Don't fight with green eagles only save from them dont hit him even a missile and cannon this is waste of credit ammo and all the green eaglers will bored

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  27. Why msw says Servers are Full?

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  28. This is quite off topic but whenever I try to open metalstorm, it says 'game servers full' Does it mean that there are too many people playing metalstorm at once?all though I could not get on to metalstorm for a day.

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    1. Its the Same Problem at my device. I think it could be the Problem with the Update to Version 4.1.3 which is on the original MS:W Website discriebt. Maybe the Problem is there when Apple give the Update Out.

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    2. The update is not already here is it? Now it says,"cannot connect to server please check firewall settings please try again later."

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  29. I think server down

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  30. Same problem here

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  31. Server full? No way!! Most times there are "no suitable matches!" as for the GW, I think the developers made a mistake and it won't be re-released. I own almost every plane they offered and they are fully tricked out, but I love flying my green tank and get humiliated sometimes when my opponent is skilled. The GW has a thin skin, so if you are quick and accurate, you can beat me. But as my skill level increases, I find my foes lying in corners at the last moment and then smoke them!! They are so stunned they can't even disconnect

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    1. Maybe you've been flying the green eagle too long now and have gotten use to draws because winning is pretty normal for most of us....and as for the green eagle's thin skin-in case you never noticed it is a defense class aircraft, so you might as well say every plane in the game has a thin skin

      By the way, I don't know what you mean about your foes in the corners because going at full speed in my iron fang, not a single missile from defense class aircraft can hit me...bitchnovates or not-which wouldn't be a problem for most of us, but as we all know, green eagle pilots don't know what skill is and nor do they know what cannons are...they just do 100000 backflips while their armor regenerates and spam bisnovates

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    2. You got a point there. But some other defense planes last longer against a heavy bombardment than the GE. I do a lot of flips and spam bisnos and I am getting tired of it. I think I'll switch to a weapons class and start using standard issue ordnance. It gets expensive wasting all those 10 coin guns! I draw a lot but win quite a lot, even against more skilled pilots. Then again, players with only 5,000 as opposed to my 30,000 sometimes blow me away!! That's when I really get humiliated!!

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  32. Guys pics of Cobalt and stats and gameplay pic on MSAF page on Facebook
    Search
    MSAF

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    1. i searched it, nothing related to metal storm popped up??

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    2. Sometimes people don't keep it topic related and will put crap on

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  33. Or Visit
    Metalstormapp.com (Reccomended)

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    1. Floro your Website is great too ;-)
      No offense man, I strongly disagree with you about the best planes in each category. For me (I must say I have not tried all of them but I fought against them many times except the newly arrived Cobalt)

      Weapon:
      1/ Red Widow
      2/ Cobalt
      3/ Sentinel

      Agility:
      1/ Spectre
      2/ Reaper
      3/ Rath

      Defense
      1/ Green Eagle
      2/ Dragon
      3/ Nightwing

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  34. can anyone else not get in the game today? it says to me that the game servers are full. please try again later. and i tryed and tryed but i still can't get in the game. i think that Z2 has problems cuz i can't get i battle nations to. and it says the same thing

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  35. Just one thing to say about the Cobalt: Wow! Sure it will compete for best in weapon class with RW, Hawken and Sentinel (my top three weapon planes). +8% lock speed must help in close engagement, although I often launch my missiles without seeing my opponent in such situation.
    But be careful, they may change the stats and the price before the official release! For example, they did that with the Sentinel in the past. By the way, I have always been wondering what was the deal with people who bought a Sentinel before the stats were changed. Did they keep the old (better) stats or was their plane downgraded?
    No doubt the Cobalt has excellent stats and really looks sexy (one of the most beautiful plane I would say). The price is quite low, hard for me to figure out how they get to sell this plane for 180 coins while they sold some shits more than 300 coins! But anyway I'm very happy with my recently bought Red Widow.
    Now I'm thinking about buying a top agility plane. The new one coming next week looks great but I'm wondering if it may lack some punch compared to Spectre or Reaper that have extra damage? What do you think guys, especially those owning top agility planes without extra damage like the Rath?

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    1. I suggest you to buy the F-119 Reaper, but excuse me, haven't you already got a fully upgraded Zephir? By the way I think Agility and Speed are the best stats for Agi planes so I'd choose the Reaper which has the best in fleet. It lacks of energy but this have never been a problem for me since I have never ran out of energy with this plane (I think this is my style, or I'm just an Agility n00b, lol). The extra damage is very high considering this is an Agi aircraft, while I don't feel the extra armor (maybe because Agility planes have got too low armor too notice it). But it must be fully upgraded and you must be very skilled (especially with agility aircrafts) to fly it well.
      Hope this helped, mate.

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  36. Bummer, the server is still down. It's been a long time. I hope that does not mean that something bad has happened to the company.

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  37. It does Z2 servers crashed and are trying to fix it
    They tried to launch 4.1.3 update I'm against the boost enhanvements

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  38. People if you find that my top planes are weird its not based on its stats but how well and effectively I can use it

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  39. Who ever it was and called me dumb for it this is for you
    Your mum do dumb she sold her car for petrol cash
    Your mum do dumb her birthday expired
    Your mum do dumb when she saw the wet floor sigh, so she did
    (she pussed on the floor)

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  40. Guys, it's simple;

    Just vertically up or down, if the opponent is above you, fly vertical down. If the opponent is below you, fly vertical up. Do a roll during both of these maneuvers.

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    1. It seems as though he is trying to get us back on topic.

      Cannon Ace ._.

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  41. I think Z2 should make a plane based off of the MiG-31 Firefox. It isn't a real plane, but it's still pretty cool.

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  42. Hey the best missle avoidance technique is to NEVER USE THE WARTHOG!!!!!!
    No offense to those to use it but when I fly my Saratoga I can take them down 6-7 times because they are so slow. I don't even have to try. On the subject of the warthog they should be agility. In my towns air show they had one and with those engines they can turn on a dime. Literally, it looks like a gyroscope

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  43. Wow, 94 comments till now and only three are about Missile Avoidance Techniques!

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