Thursday, June 7, 2012

Viper and Saber - back from the dead




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  1. I just don't like them all... hope there's something better coming out soon

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  2. I don't really see why the Viper is 30 coins. Didn't it use to be 6,500 credits? 30 coins seems excessive for 5% damage and 4% lock range. Z2 Live looks like it is rolling out planes from the dead as of late.

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  3. If you exchange 65 blue coins you get 6500 credits.
    Now if you look at Wraith it has +6 damage and it for 20 blue coins but viper has +5 damage +4 lock range
    So the plane is better by 3% than wraith which makes a half of +6 damage. So if +6 damage is 20 blue coins and +3 is 20 blue coins and you add it it comes to 30 blue coins. So viper isnt expensive.

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    1. Sorry not +3 is 20 blue coins I meant 10 blue coins.

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    2. would you buy 2000 credits for 20 blue coins ? 09Florovicj ???

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  4. I have proved for myself that viper kills green eagles. I'll always say to myself when I'm going to fight green eagle "I won"

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  5. To beat green eagle do the same stuff you would do with agility class etc you travel to one end half way to the other end you shoot your enemy the you turn around and do the same. Dont give him a chance to heal if you can do this you'll be able to kill him even with raams. I'll rather use Phoenix.
    If your not confident give him hell with bisnovats If he calls you a noob he can't really because he's the one with the green eagle.

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    1. I have a fully upgraded F-22 (the F-106) and I can destroy everything I come across. So I can probably kick his sad little but if I ever come across him

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  6. I think they will be gone by monday

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  7. WTF??? How on earth did this guy get green eagle when he bearly even got this game.
    Viper pilots give this SOB a lesson here is his game centre nickname add him
    sk1p-sk1p-sk1p

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    1. Lol! Revenge on the green eagles! everyone, ASSEMBLE! Haha!

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    2. Achillis is out

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    3. He probably played it before and bought the Eagle before it was discontinued. Not everyone frequents versus mode.

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  8. Achilles is out
    .:Arman92:.

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    1. i already have it

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    2. Lucky
      .:Arman92:.

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  9. Hahahahaha the ice wofl
    is such an UGLY plane lol! It looks like a united or southwest airline air bus lmao! or maybe a world war 2 aircraft...

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    1. ur darn right it looks like shit... for real lol.
      i feel bad for those people who bought this crap plane lol.

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  10. They bring back these and not the marauder? Lame.

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    1. How are they lame. They were discontinued and you want a piece of shit that has bad agility a ballon on the skull (theme) which was out not so long ago.
      I'll rather want Z2 to bring red widow back.
      Nah screw marauder I wish it will never come back. Z2 make new planes!!!
      Doing a good job right now. Keep on going.

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  11. why on earth will we spend 30 coins on the viper? trying to steal our money, are u Z2? i'd rather buy an upgrade. the Marauder needs to be rerealeased for the WEEK (so we can get the credits), not the weekEND.

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    1. I agree. Two days to save up for the Marauder is not enough.

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  12. hey Stan the Man, you commented on a post saying that your favorite plane (weapons class) should have energy, speed (maybe it was agility), damage, and missile accuracy. well, the ice wolf is that plane. if you buy it, tell me what you think.

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    1. ive seen the pic of the icewolf like the other guy said above. the plane doesn't interest me at all coz its a horrible looking plane, ill rather save my blue coin for another plane to come out.

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    2. Well, might not buy it; many have said it's ugly. But it's stats are impressive

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    3. What has ugly got to do with it? I would fly a pig if it kicked everybodys ass in Versus.

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  13. What plane is ice wolf based on?

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    1. check the msw facebook fanpage, a guy posted a pic of the icewolf! the plane look shit for real!

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    2. That was me lol

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  14. What plane is Ice Wolf Based on?

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  15. Why do I have a Wordpress account???

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  16. Can someone poem this guy for me I failed because he is probably the biggest noob on metalstorm (not a cheater but an green eagle flyer with bisnovats and can do some unexpected and cheeky turn always getting a shot a you with his nooby bisnovats.
    His game centre nickname is
    TURKiSH FORCE

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    1. Woah, props to that guy winning against a Viper pilot while using the Green Eagle. He must be such a skilled player for overcoming that huge disadvantage! The Viper is, after all, the Green Eagle's most feared enemy.

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    2. That guy is a flipping noob that Plane is not his first he gained skill using the first one and he is using all the skill on his green eagle. You even try best him.

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    3. @Anonymous How is the Viper so good against the Green Eagle? Does it have some sort of hidden bonus or something?

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    4. Same Anon here. You should ask Florovic; he's the one who's been ranting on and on about its greatness.

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  17. I don't do this but I would do this to this guy get Setinel and load it with vympels and Zeus. Then I'll be firing consistently shooting one missile every 2.5 seconds killing him every 20 seconds making him lose 6-0

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  18. I bet everyone faced this guy at least once I faced him at least 20 times. Everytime the same tactic plane and weapons. I bet we all who faced him were so angry that we wanted to throw our phones against the wall.

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  19. Ah the Viper...it was the first plane that I fully upgraded. Before I because an agility fan.

    It rocked back then. I haven't flown it recently, but I think I'll take her out of the hangar.

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  20. Anybody have any reviews on the S-03 Saber? I really want to buy it but don't quite know if I should

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    1. Don't you think it is better to save 205 coins for another plane instead of one that is the bad hawken? Use the 205 coins to buy the red widow (and you'll still have 25)when they'll release it or if you have 390 get the achilles.

      Skyraza.

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    2. I just did battle with the s-03 saber and I beat it. But then again, I was flying a fully upgraded F-106 Arbiter, so that might have had something to do with it. But overall, it didn't do as badly as some of the OTHER planes that I fly against today. ( I've been on a winning streak) my game name is AaronJC56 if anyone wants to be my wingman. I'm level 35, skill 1360.

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  21. I really recommend this plane. When it's gone it will be a very long time it will be back it might get discontinued again!!!

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  22. On official forums it said that the viper will stay for the shortest time. Do I think it will be gone by Monday. If you want to get both don't bother with upgrades and get them both you don't have limited time to upgrade them.

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  23. Anyway my opinion on the Achilles is it will be a turtle being easily shot down as the the other defence class. You might argue that it's not the same with green eagle. Yeah but that's different it has high armour regen but Achilles doesn't. The plane will only be good in survival.

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    1. You are totally wrong mate. This plane is very difficult to shot down and flying it is very easy to shot down enemies. About survival it is as good as an half upgraded dragon.

      Skyraza.

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    2. I've come across one Achilles with same weapons as me and I easily out turned it and killed it with my Hawken. And don't give me that noob stuff. He has a higher sr than me and you have to be level 45 just to buy the thing.

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    3. Opps! I was thinking Nightwing. That's what I get for posting to early in the morning. Sorry about that.

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  24. Florovic do you still have the courage to write after having burn the Saudi trick????

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    1. Take it easy :-)

      As I already explained, we knew that the new update would come this week. And it is not surprinsing that it broke the Saudi trick, because the previous trick (Thailand) was broken by the previous update.
      I'm not making the case for Florovic, but I really think that he did not play a role in this.

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    2. Yeah I still have courage I'm not coward. Mate your mums like a Hoover first she sucks then she blows and finally gets laid back.
      Your mum is like a stamp first you lick her then you stick her and then you send her away.
      Your mums like a Christmas tree people hang balls on her.
      Your mums like a squirrel she always has nuts in her mouth
      Your mums like a bowling ball first you pick her up then you finger her and throw her in the gutter but yet she comes for more.
      Your mums like a bt phonebox on every damn corner 20p a go.
      Your mums like a tv even a 2 year old can turn her on!
      Your mums like a computer you have to finger her to turn her on!
      Your mum so smelly when she spread her legs I got seasick!!!

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    3. I don't get why you're angry you never know on the next update there will be international trick it's the same as Thailand trick nobody said it to Z2 but it's been fixed.
      Anyway I didn't write this to Z2 do they'll block it i just wanted to share with other people so they can also have the priveledge to do it. But I was forgetting Z2 is reading it. I'm a spaz I am.

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    4. Flovo"flowerboy"voj or whatever your name is : PLEASE SHUT UP AND STOP INSERTING UR JUNK - I bet its annoying each and every reader here !

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    5. He is a bit annoying, I agree, but his posts make me laugh even if he probably didn't intend for them to. Don't discourage him from posting, please.

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    6. It was rather douchey how he bragged about his knowledge of the international trick on the official forums, but I agree with The Kid; I doubt Z2 was unaware before Floro posted it for all to see.

      That said, his actions may have prompted Z2 to improve their security. We may never see such leaks again.

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    7. floro, ur mama's like a bus. men get on and off her all day.
      ur mama's like ur homework. you slam her on the desk and do it all night

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    8. Your mum jokes are alright but not better than mine.
      Your momma so old that when Moses parted the red sea he saw your mum fishing on the other side?
      Your momma like a shotgun first she cocks then she blows.
      Your mum so dirty the only dis I can give her is disinfectant.
      Your mum so dirty she she had to wipe her feet before leaving the house.
      Your mum so poor when I rang the bell she said ding dong.
      Your mum so poor I saw her kicking a can on the road and I asked her what you're doing and she said "moving"

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    9. haha loved the last two. same guy who posted bus and homework mum jokes

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  25. I was unable to find pictures of the IceWolf.
    Can anybody post some link?
    Thanks

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    1. Read above post or go to msw fb fanpage for the icewolf pic.

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  26. That mum jokes are for the anonymous guy being mean. They are not for you the kid.

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  27. Ok, the Achilles is probably a turtle for vs., but it is a pretty cool turtle (at a very "cool" price). If I'm sitting on close to 600 coins, should I get it (I'll still have enough for the RW when it comes out, I'll just not upgrade yet)? If I'm serious about my Survival score I use my Dragon and my EagleX is doing just fine for Campaigns, so it's not like I need it. Any thoughts?

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    1. I'll just tell you tat I jumped at it the moment I saw it, cos its a blackbird :) - Though you right - It is indeed a turtle but I think its the fastest Defense Class plane - it reaches a ma speed of 2970 - thats as fast as a standard speed "Weapons Class" - eg. Hawken or Sentinel - I think this Archilles is HUGE compared to other planes - I'm not sure about this butt simply flying the plane gives a feel like as if your in a plane maybe twice as large as the opponent - My plane is semi upgraded and nothing really stands out so far except as I mentioned - its size ( i guess )

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    2. I posted some comments in "saudi trick" and in "released version 4.1.2" about it. Read them and then buy that plane.

      Skyraza.

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  28. Nah Achilles is expensive compared to different planes.

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  29. Florovic you are mental insane or 8 year old to not understand when to speak and when no

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    1. The 8 year old bit isn't true but the thing when not to speak is 100% true. It's just part of my personality. Anyway I'm 14 years old nearly 15.

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  30. Anyway Florovic is my second name. Janko is my nickname (real life) and Ján is my birth name. I'm Slovakian we don't just have birthdays we also have name days so when you're born you mum has to pick out of 365 names and at a certain date when it your name day it's same as birthday but they sing happy name day. This year Slovakia has won silver medal.
    ( DO NOT COMPARE ME AS IF ALL SLOVAKIANS WERE THE SAME) My personality has changed since I live in England.

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  31. I used to be mature and desaplined but that has changed since kids in england think at the age of 14 that throwing haribo in someone's head is funny. They get a bonner over it.
    Anyway has anyone tried out Sky Gamblers: Air Supermacy
    Sky Gamblers; Rise of Glory
    The stuff about the British is not written as a dis but a fact that changed me.

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  32. Can anybody who has the Achilles tell me if it's a good plane or a waste of coins. I really like the defense class and would like to own this plane.

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    1. Keep your coins for something more interesting, that's my advice. If you don't have already a Dragon and you want a good defense plane, save for it. It should be better in both versus and Survival modes.

      Sorry guys I can't find pictures of the Ice Wolf on the Facebook page. Can somebody help me?

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    2. Its in msw fb fanpage lol the pic of the icewolf "all ---- metalstorm" click "all" for fan threads.

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    3. If your using a phone click the "all" its on the top left of the page, it takes you to the fan treads.
      If your on the desktop or running "FB Full site version" its on the right side click the recent post for all fan threads..
      Hope this help you :)

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    4. I really recommend the Raven, it's such a good alternative if you dont have the dragon.

      t_park

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    5. Wow it really seems that people don't read any comment before posting. I have been the first asking this then i got this plane i fully upgraded it and i posted different feedbacks all around but it figures out like no one given a f**k. Read my comment to Isail above.

      Skyraza.

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    6. Calm down mate, if I were to consider buying an expensive plane like that I'd get as many feedback as I could too before buying. I've seen your feedback but I would still post on the newest thread for more before deciding.

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    7. Ah, OK. Sorry for the aggressivity bro but I saw many posts like yours so it got me a bit angry.

      Skyraza.

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    8. I got the Achilles the day after it came out (: it is one of my favorites that I own. I have it almost completely upgraded, and I've only gotten shot down ONCE in it. True it's not very agile, but with the Gibralter defense system its armor and energy are INSANE. Its speed is very nice, and I really like the extra 10% damage. Overall, this is an awesome plane! I've taken down Sentinels, Green Eagles, Eagle-X's, Hawkens, and even the Reaper with this plane. And, like I said, was shot down ONCE. If you know how to use it, it is a freaking BEAST.
      Thanks (:

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  33. The Saber, being a close equal to the Hawken, seems worth the 205 coins (the Hawken being worth 20000 credits, or a 200 coin equivalent). The Viper doesn't look anything special, but I might pick it up anyway... Dunno though...

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    1. The saber is a really great plane for 205 coins I highly recommend it, and about the Viper....I have owned a viper ever since it was first released and I still don't see anything special about it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong or something but it just doesn't seem special. Even now it's just taking up space in my hangar. However it's only 30 coins! If you want to buy it then be my guest,but if you want a real weapons class plane then look no further than the Saber. Hope this helped

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    2. Seems to me that the Saber is better than Hawken or RW for Campaigns but worse for Versus (due to the Agi bonus on Hawken/RW). Is that a reasonable assessment?

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    3. 5% extra long range may be more useful than +10% Agility in campaign but just barely, in my opinion. I would rather get the Sentinel for that, but even an Eagle-X is enough.

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    4. It might not be great but it's design is the big reason for it. Dunno about you I was very succesfull with it using raams Phoenix and lancers when got pissed of from guys with their bisnovats on senitels and red widows.

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  34. Thanks a bundle, Anon. I've been trawling around the MSW forums on FB and haven't found the likeness of the Ice Wolf yet. Where's it posted?

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  35. Yep its on msw fb fanpage not in msw fb page. Click the fan threads its on the top left of the msw fb page it takes you to the members comments section.

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    1. Could you please link. I have been all over FB and can't find the picture. I'm not sure if I find the correct FB page either. I assume this (https://www.facebook.com/MetalStormOnline) isn't it, but which page is it?

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    2. I've been looking for it as well and I have no idea what "fan threads" are that the other guy was talking about... But I think it might be this one:
      m.facebook.com/groups/119438054836281

      Also, is it just me or does anyone else have problems typing in the comment boxes here when using the iPhone? I couldn't paste that link, I had to type it all...

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    3. On iphone 4 settings fb app: go to metal storm page, on that screen alone its all msw crap etc...or wallpost. On top of the page below "like" icon theres another icon or link says "ALL"" and "metalstorm" click the "all" you'll see post from fb msw fans and more. And scroll down i think its the third post below a guy who shared his dragon pic on survival mode! Thats it

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    4. On Pc its easy go to MSW page: On the half left of the Screen are msw wall post, on the right half side are these "Recent Posts by Others on MetalStorm" "See All" click the titled says tora tora bang bang that's the pic of the icewolf posted by an FB user. Lol Can't give the link or else my FB account will be screwed

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    5. Pics gone man z2 delete i guess.

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    6. I've seen the post with Dragon and Reaper in survival but no Ice Wolf / tora tora bang bang...

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  36. ICEWOLF PIC: link https://www.dropbox.com/s/9xx4d13yl3y197x/Photo%20Jun%2008%2C%203%2004%2049%20PM.png

    enjoy

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    1. ewwww such ugly!

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    2. lol The Icewolf really looks like a wolf thats feelin cold alright ! but i may deliver quite a sting ! has anyone faced it in a versus match yet ??

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    3. Wow! Strange plane! It seems a re-styled tempest.

      Skyraza.

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    4. Ah ah! what an ugly plane! how did they came up with that? By chance, the stats are not good either and my mind was already made up: I will not buy it.

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  37. As far as iknow that plane still not available to play in 4.1.2 version coz its not out yet. Not like the previous leaked plane its ready to fly as long as its shows in your hangar menu.

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    1. I wonder: if people who have bought the ice wolf couldn't play it before it's featured, would they be able to play it AFTER it has finished being featured?

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  38. the only thing i find ugly bout the ice wolf is the color scheme, and the nose cone. if it was like dark red with "ice crusted" wings and a WAY better nose cone, i would totally buy it.

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    1. Damm that plane belongs to chinese communist army lol, Isn't that the red star means communist people! :P

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  39. M-53 Ice Wolf is a MiG-19, introduction in 1955 !!! Therefore it looks like crap.

    I don't know what Z2Live is thinking, while introducing an ancient plane with top bonus stats. That's total illogical! Shall we soon fly a propeller plane from World War 2, which is far better than a jet fighter? Absolute nonsense!

    So the question is, will you buy such age-old plane? Me not.

    PS.so the "M" stands for MiG, like the M-11 Raven is a MiG-29.

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    1. Vinh, I absolutely agree with you on the IceWolf but not with your statement on the World War II propeller powered plane - lol, cos in Sky Gamblers that very propeller powered plane ( name in Sky Gambler's - P51 ) is the plane that took mua from Airman 3 level all the way to 1st level Sgt. ... lol

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    2. Well Z2 is running out of planes. They made a lot. But the ice wolf should of looked like a Bright white F-5

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    3. This plane will probably be a flop

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  40. Nah! L-39 Albatros would be better than the F-5 or even possibly the Grumman A-6A but not with that weird think on the nose.

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  41. Oh!!! Look at these planes!!!
    SU-34 and SU-25

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  42. I thought it looked ridiculous at first but it's strangely starting to grow on me. The paint scheme is terrible though.

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  43. These planes so need to be in metalstorm!
    I'll make Z2 to make these planes. The SU-25 Will probably be defence class and the SU-34 I'm not so sure but definately not defence class.

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  44. SU-34 should of been the ice wolf because it's normal theme is icy. Also what makes it cool it the very aerodynamic cockpit and it's very long tail.

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    1. Flanko ! please get well soon

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    2. You did, congratulations. You must be so proud to have such an impressive achievement.
      I'm impressed, guys. Is anyone else impressed?

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    3. Oi I didn't write to look at the plane called SU-34 for nothing.

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  46. I played several matchs with my Sentinel against a guy who was flying Achilles. If I'm not wrong he had credits missiles and cannons like and his SR was just a little higher than mine. It was pretty easy to outmaneuver him and to destroy him several times. Once again, the Stealth effect was not striking to me. Basically, this plane has less speed/agility than a good weapon class and far lower damage potential, which are not balanced by its defensive features. My advice: don't buy it. It's not good for versus mode (like most of defense planes unfortunately) and worst than Dragon and Raven for survival mode.
    The only intersting thing is the design of this plane. But I would not buy it even for half of its current price.

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    1. Hi,

      Sentinel ( weapon class ) to my knowledge as i own an love this plane - the top speed - 2870-2880
      Archilles ( defense class ) just recently bought - semi upgraded - top speed - 2930-2940

      Im sorry but your post implies - the Archilles that you encountered was slower then the Sentinel you
      were flying - Is this true ? Sorry If im missing out on something here.

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    2. The Kid what do you think about these 3 planes should they be introduced to metalstorm?
      SU-34
      SU-25
      L-39 Albatros

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    3. Well, The Kid, you played AGAINST him, you didn't FLY it. Maybe that was just a rich noob with a strong plane who wasn't able to use 100% of its power. My win/draw,loss ratio is 3.20, my games played are 708, I have 6015 SR and my versus kills are actually 1685. I don't want to be disliked but it is evident that i am a skilled player and with my skill to fly an achilles is the max strenght that a player can hope to have. So if you know how to use very well a defense class in versus mode this plane is a must to get.

      Skyraza.

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    4. SU 34 and SU 35 look great!
      Not eager about L 39 albatros

      To anonymous: true that you never know if the plane you run into is fully upgraded or not. But the fact is that actually I have now fought against two or three opponents with Achilles and I was not blown away. I found it easier to defeat than a Dragon with similar weapons and a pilot with similar SR. Agree with what you say about speed, but agility is more important when it comes to dogfight. And the potential for damage that include damage, reload, lock range and lock speed will always be lower than those of Weapon planes. Although the Nightwing and the Achilles have distinct characteristics, my opinion is quite similar for both of them. However, I do not own these planes and therefore I did not give them a shot... Something noticeable for me that I met a lot of Nightwings right after it was released but I no longer do. They may be in their hangar now...
      Curious to get some input from Nightwing and Achilles owner and to learn from them how they think these planes compare to top weapon planes.

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    5. I must agree with The Kid.
      I played the Archilles with fully upgraded for a while, it was a disaster when i first flew it. With Speed but less agility makes it truely likes a tortoise. It might fly straight line fast(only compares to defense class), but turns really slowly.
      The Archilles have enough energy, so it can keep maneuvering, this works in a dogfight. But I find it difficult to dodge coin missiles like bisnovat/lancer in a head to head combat without good agility and maneuver speed.
      The Acrhilles can only bear 4 or 5 coin missiles fired by a weapon class plane, and it can't regenerate energy fast. It means that any weapon class plane with a good skilled pilot can take at least 1/2 even 2/3 life of the archilles in a single head to head combat.
      The Archilles is very different plane from the 3 class planes, flying the archilles is a difficult task for any pilot. You have to adapt it, to find a way to fly it then you will find that it is still a good plane(of course not the best.).

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    6. Skyraza, you might be more skilled than me, as I am 5600 and my Win/loss+draw ratio is lower than 50% (must be something like 300/800). Do you play with credits missiles and cannons like me? The guy I was talking about was not a total noob as his SR was higher than mine.
      Do you own a Dragon and a top weapon plane? How do you think these planes compare to the Achilles.
      Anyway, I'm happy to learn that some players appreciate defense planes. Diversity is good for the game and one class of plane does not fit all.

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    7. to The Kid :
      i have both Nightwing and Achilles, and i have another 20 different planes including weapon/defense/agility class planes.
      i have two game center accounts, and both SR is between 20000 to 30000.
      it is so hard to say which plane is the best, every plane has it's strengths and weaknesses and i only use credit weapons, so i can't tell how they will be if i use coin weapons.
      but one thing is for sure, a pilot of good skills flys a plane with coin weapons is very hard to defeat. i pay more attention to them.

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    8. no offense to you man, but your exactly right, a skilled pilot equip w/ coin missile is hard to beat.
      (e.g) chinese pilots w/ chinese flag icon most of them
      equip w/ coin missile all the time no matter what SR they are! TOP of that too they lag so bad, not the server but them, they think they are the shits of MSW skies. they just
      lag horrible.

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    9. The Kid, I use lancers and apollos only rarely and against players whose skill is 6x mine, all the other cases i use valkiries and Raams/Phoenix. I own an half upgraded hawken (unpatiently waiting for the Red Widow that I'll fully upgrade), an almost fully upgraded F-119 Reaper, a Tresher and an highly upgraded Dragon. This are my fancy planes. I found the Achilles better than my hawken (maybe cause my Achilles is fully upgraded), better than my Reaper cause for now i don't like agi planes very much and better than my Dragon for versus mode cause Achilles has got more damage(if you use a dragon you are usually looking for a draw).

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    10. Difficult to compare an upgraded plane with a partly upgraded one. I bet that you will change your mind about your Achilles once you will have given a shot to a fully upgraded Hawken or Red Widow. BTW I'm also unpatiently waiting for the Red Widow... let's hope it will come back next week!

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    11. I have been facing a fully upgraded hawken or red window with bisnovat many times, and i know one single shot will take how many life of archilles, for many times it took almost half life of archilles just one single shot. it is unbelievable for a so-called defense class plane, but it is true. Of course the pilot's SR must be greater then 20K, or i still can defeat them easily.
      As i said, it was a disaster for me to flew the archilles in the beginning. But i did not give up this plane, i tried to find a way to adapt. i can defeat them and not that easily to be defeated now.
      I like archilles very much, because it's good looking. But i have to explane, a good skilled pilot flys a weapon class plane takes a big advantage then the one flys archilles.

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    12. To The kid: if you mean when I'll face a fully upgraded hawken/RW, well already done. It was my first match with it when it was lowly upgraded, I went against a 33k SR fully upgraded hawken, It was a circoling match, my achilles got out almost destroyed but still alive and the match ended with a 0-0 draw. Then I fully upgraded it cause since the first time i had an innatural feeling with that plane and in 3/4 days I went from 4625 SR to 6000.

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    13. I was meaning that when you will own a fully upgraded Hawken or RW, I guess you will think it's better than your Achilles. And your SR will increase even more ;-)

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    14. Ah, well I think so too, bro. I bought the Achilles cause I had enough coins to buy and fully upgrade it, [and It seemed me like a mid plane between defense class(3/6), weapon (2/6) and agility (1/6)].In fact i was not wrong. And I still have enough coins to do the same with the RW.

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    15. But I am almost sure they are gonna release the M-53 Ice Wolf after the Stiletto.

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  47. Damn! People always say to me that when I talk I make em laugh. I'm not even trying to be funny.
    Maybe because when I do impression of someone I do the borat voice etc. "Ah hello na name is Borat I like you I like sex"
    The first words that Borat says at the start of the film.
    When you get a chance watch this film you'll LYFAO!!!

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  48. I believe Z2 was aware of the international trick because when they done update to block the Thailand trick eventhough nobody told them on the update it said
    Bug fixes.
    But they failed so on this update they didn't do the mistake.

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  49. lugs should give floro a credit for being a hardcore blogger on his site. w/o him this site would be boring! kudo's to you floro.
    now some more mum jokes pls....

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    1. Ok.
      Your mum so dirty Binlardin tried to import her bathwater for biological reasons.

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    2. Your mum so fat when she parachuted out off plane people shouted watch out Thermonucleur bomb!!!
      Your mum so fat when kids saw her they shouted pinhatta instead of sweats fat came out.

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    3. Your Nan so wrinkly I use her as a cheese grater
      Your mum so old Jurassic park brought back memories
      Your mum so dirty she lost 6 stone after taking a shower.
      Your mum so old she forgot her purse on Noah's ark.

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  50. Holè! I finally found a way to comment as Skyraza like The Kid without signing under the comment!

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  51. If someone will post a new trick to see upcoming planes, Florivic shut up please this time

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    1. Ok i learned on my mistake you have my promise I'll keep it to myself.

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    2. lol - do you guys mean Janko aka. borat's not gonna squeak ? lol - like the squirell and nuts joke kinda similiarity im seeing here - lol

      Either way - I think we're all living in WONDERLAND if you think that Z2 does not know bout this blog even before
      Janko aka Borat squeaked - Sorry Janko, no offense at all - Im really startin to like you very much - lol - keep it up - your presense is actually reducing the tension amongst angry metalstorm players .

      Just keep comin up with : your mama's like a squirell !!! she always has nuts in her mouth kinda jokes and I bet you'll be a star soon !!! lol - keep it up kiddo

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  52. F*CK that plane (icewolf) wtf a plane from ww1 or ww2... a TORA TORA...i aint fying that shit , i
    dont care if the stats are good but dammed. that plane doesn't look good on me if ever i fly that thing :p..... its like driving a beamer, then downgrade to a saturn box car hell no it aint me shit.

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  53. just btw after tis update i cant do the snow camouflage trick

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  54. Could the ice wolf be the me-262?

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    1. No, it is a Mig-19 (as far as we can tell from the picture that has been shared).

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  55. in the viper i killed d-112 eagle, is very easy in this pleane

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    1. Hey you ^^ lokoero [FAC] do you like some attention all the time huh? You like to spam your pics on MSW fanpage you think it's cute its not! Oh BTW your spamming coin missile all the time in VS. Mode. You think your the shit. Nope your coin missile got skills than you and that's a fact hombre.

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    2. Mate the plane has more skill than you. Don't get all suprised when people use bisnovats. Nearly the only way to pown off green eagle if your not expert. I managed to kill green eagle with default missiles but the guy just started the game and had no experience he must of gliched the game.

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    3. My RS is greater than 30k .... and only use RAAM's, because it is a waste of money to buy missiles for payment. your skill is bad, and bad play

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    4. I dont use bisnovats, Vympels not AMBD anymore but very rarely the lancets only when I got pissed of from noobs armed with bisnovats proving to them if I use same missiles I could easily beat them.

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  56. Your mum so fat when she bends over we enter the daylight saving time.
    Your mum so fat when she farted she set herself into orbit!
    Your mum do ugly she went the ugly contest and they told her no professionals.
    Your mum so ugly when she born her mum said look its a treasure and her dad said ok now let's burry her.

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  57. Your mum do smelly her poo was glad to escape.
    Your mum so smelly when she spread her legs I got seasick.
    Your mum so ugly when she looked out the window she was arrested for indicent exposer!

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  58. My skill rating is nearly 15000
    I won half of my matches and drawned 25% of matches. I use credit weapons.

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    1. and u have a fake NSF tag and i whopped u 3-0 and ur crap....

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  59. What can be better than this. Get your Viper out load it with Phoenix and your opponent is a guy flying his Orbiter using Raams and also his SR is 1378!
    Powned 8-0. Makes me happy everytime. I realised the viper is good against all defence classes! :)

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  60. ARKWARD JOKES!!

    Whats Nelly the Elephant's middle name???
    What did the lawyer say to the other lawyer???
    Why did the boy drop his ice cream???


    Please reply then I'll tell the answers. Shouldn't have to because theyre arkward

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  61. It would be cool if Z2 made 4th class called all-around class

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    1. that would mess up the rock(defense) paper(agility) scissors(weapons)

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  62. Basically a 1/3 or agility 1/3 of weapon 1/3 of defence

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  63. There was a funny guy named Dino Huang(HSL531029) just sent me a request and said i cheated.
    I sent back a message to ask why he thought i cheated , maybe because i defeated him?
    I flew the archilles with phoenix and he flew a sentinel with coin missile(i forgot which one), our SR is about 23K to 20K, i defeated him by 2:0, then i received that funny message.
    The server is not lag, so i don't really understand why made him think that way? His SR is above 20K, but the way he fought is so predictable, fly far away then do a hard turn, use the advantage of coin missiles, standard tactical of a weapon class pilot does. I always speed up to follow him, shoot my connon gun and wait him to do the hard turn, then fire two missile and maneuver to another side(this is very important to dodge coin missiles). And make a quick turn to follow him then do it again.
    For me , he is a easy target, even he of SR 20k flew a very good plane with very good missles.
    I have to say : grow up, guy, you need a little more practice.

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  64. If you consider two players with similar SR, it's pretty obvious that the one who has reached such SR with credits missiles is much more skilled than the other guy who has always been using coin missiles.
    I think that a 5-10K player with RAAMS is intrisically better than a 20K coin missiles player.
    Thank you for your comment, that's interesting and I got you. The problem for me is when you say "I always speed up to follow him, shoot my connon gun". Sure, that's the key but not that easy to do for me! Practice makes perfect...

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  65. Would you have some advice?
    What is difficult for me is that I do have three "tactics"
    1/ Hunting for the red arrow with hard turns, which often results in a close and bried face to face and then again
    2/ Flying far away and do some hard turn (rarely a back flip because it's dangerous)
    3/ When my opponent is much more skilled than I am, often with an agility plane, I just do what I can!
    Overall, I find the most difficult is to figure out where your opponent is exactly. If you don't, it's difficult to use the tactic you described.
    The second key I think is to be able to take advantage of your cannons and that's not always that easy.
    Thanks for your helpful comments

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    1. 1/ Hunting for the red arrow with hard turns, which often results in a close and bried face to face and then again -->> this is what i always do, differently is that i usually fire missiles and don't care the red arrow shows up, just make a guess when i might face the opponent's plane then fire. And of course most of them hit nothing, but this do pressure to my opponents, and there are still a good hit rate. if i don't do this , it will be a very tough job for to defeat a agility plane. and this is why i don't use coin missiles, i am not interested to hit people with coins, i am not that rich.

      2/ Flying far away and do some hard turn --->> only when i fly a agility plane or i am better against my opponent, like you said, it is very dangerous. A good-skilled pilot will not give up the opportunity.

      1/ is the most basic, whether your opponent fly which kind of planes, you have to face it. i think the key is practice to fire missiles and cannons before lock the enemy(the missile doesn't have lock, when the opponent's plane is close enough , it can be hit.) when you are good at this, you will find out it is more easier to defeat weapon/agilith class planes, even they are more agility then you are.

      Others are important too, and i agree that practice makes prefert.

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    2. Thank you, man!

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  66. to metalstormforever:
    are you gonna review the achilles

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  67. If Achilles was reword everyone would be saying have powned they got 8-0

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  68. that good to play with many of those who enter this blog, I hope to play more often with you, if so Tell me while the game to give +25

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    1. Lol, I just came across you randomly in the automatch. I knew it was you because I go to this blog a lot to catch up on my msw news. Anyways, I like to fight people without an edge to sharpen my skills in the game. Thanks for the good match, it helps me develop new strategies on the fly!
      -ok月mi [GC]

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  69. shame on me for not thinking of this earler for the " what would u like to see in the next update" (dont blame me if someone already said it) but to be able to watch a replay (optional of course,) and save it in camera role! (again optional) and to be able to watch it from either players perspective!

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  70. @The Kid

    Hey, I see ya used a sentinel, can I get ur oppinion on it? For my weapon class planes, it takes 6~7 rockets to kill another weapon class plane, planes flewn are liberty, hawken and eagle. By any chance does the sentinel only take 6 rockets to kill instead of 7? I'm talking about credit raam

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  71. I think the Sentinel is a great, excellent plane. It's probably in the top three of Weapon class with the Red Widow and the Hawken. Sorry, I know that some players love other weapon planes and they may be right... One could discuss for years about this. Anyway, here is my opinion about how the Sentinel compare to RW and Hawken, which are often viewed as the gold standard for weapon planes. Of note, I do not own these planes so what I can say is "opinion based" rather than "experienced based".
    Strong points:
    - damage of course... I think it takes less than 6 missiles to shot down any weapon plane with Sentinel+RAAMS. However, it's only a little better than the RW and even the Hawken. Not a very big deal for me.
    - lock range: useful in versus mode, especially at the beginning or when you or your opponent re-spawn. Be sure that you will be the first to launch your missiles and I think it's a big advantage. Lock range is also very useful in campaign, as it allows you to hit targets from long distance, preventing you to take some hits.
    - armor: +5% may not seem vey important, but many times, it really made a difference for me when my armor was almost zero (but still alive) at the end of the fight. It's also useful in campaign mode, especially for missions 3 and 5 where you have to be more careful about your armor.
    - agility: good although less than RW and Hawken.

    Weak points:
    - agility: although good, it is still lower than the Hawken and the Red Widow. However, I rarely feel like outmaneuvered by Hawkens or RWs in versus mode. Not sure it makes a huge difference.
    - missile reload: I think it is very good to have extra missile reload like the RW and the Hawken but the Sentinel does not have it. Missile reload may be even more valuable than lock range, especially in versus mode.
    - critical strike and lock speed: RW and Hawken have extra critical strike and lock speed, however I'm not sure it is so important. A fully upgraded Sentinel makes a lot of Critical Strikes.

    Overall:
    If you buy a Sentinel, be sure that you will have an excellent weapon planes. If you are disappointed, take a look at agility planes rather than other weapon planes. I think that the Sentinel is the best plane for Campaign and often it allows me to ace all objectives in all missions.
    But is it the best for versus mode? Who knows... what I can say is that it is very good. As soon as the RW will be released I'll buy and upgrade it and it will be easier to answer.

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    1. Thanks for your comprehensive advice on the plane, I really appreciate it, because I am saving up for either a sentinel or red widow, many don't see that the 3%damage difference is huge coz each rockets deal 3% more damage, in 6 shots it would deal bonus 18% damage! Thanks for clarifying that it takes less than 6 rockets, big note for me to get it.

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    2. Try to imagine a match between a fully upgraded sentinel and a fully upgrade red widow with same cannons and missiles.
      Sentinel shoots two missiles, after a bit RW shoots two missiles, RW may more probably dodge and hit with a critical strike and after a bit shoot two other missiles, then they get in a circoling match and the RW,being more agile, will brobably get some cannon ammo against sentinel (that the sentinel may handle with the extra armor). The rest depends on a player's skill. End of the match: or a 0-0 draw or a 1-0 for the red widow. I'd get the red widow.

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  72. kid whats your GC, lets do some friendly match!
    add me if you want GC wrx™

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  73. Sorry I can't enter the "TM" in your name!
    You can add me: GTheKid

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  74. The Viper is my third plane that I have purchased after the Annihilator and Tempest. For the price of 30 coins, it's actually quite a bargain especially if you can get free coins. I packs a good punch with good missile range. I highly recommend any beginner who wants to fly a weapon class plane.

    In campaigns, the Viper is able to withstand much punishment (About 7 - 8 missile shot which is better than the annihilator) and has decent agility. Not like the Agility class but still has a good amount.

    Followed by the tech upgrades, the Viper is a fearsome fast missile launcher. It's pretty good for a low-tier weapon-class airplane.

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  75. I am able to out turn an agility class with it ask even wrx (a small tm in air after)

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    1. ur a fake NSF and i destroyed u 3-0

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  76. i still don't think its worth the credits and coins though.

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  77. What is the best way to collect coins and credits (I know about Tapjoy)? PLEASE ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!

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    1. There should be an offer by bigfishgames where you can earn around 205 blue coins spending only 3€. I spent less than 6€ and with tapjoy too i had almost 1100 coins. And take a look in earn free coins tab too.
      About the credits just play survival.

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    2. ok. however, i can't buy ANYTHING at all. any other ideas? i lost the random 10 pick contest, so i need coins. :(

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    3. Go to: settings -> general -> International -> region and change your region to United States (if you aren't already there) and you'll see many more offers than in your country. If you are already in US, try some other regions and maybe you'll see some other offers.

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    4. When I read the first part of your comment I was like "O_O a new regional trick?!?" Then I read the rest of your comment and aww'ed in disappointment LOL Still... I bought my dragon and marauder in the last trick, so any wishes for another trick has lost its purpose for me, until more interesting planes come out :(

      t_park

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    5. Were you talking about mine comment, t_park? If so, i didn't say anything about a new international trick.

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    6. I'm already in the US, but thanks. I'm just hoping that if i email tapjoy, i will get coins if i complete the download and run deals that never work.

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  78. did you se that the saber has a lover price. now its only 160 blue coins!

    add me mu5ko

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  79. Yeah 160 Coins nasty

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  80. Yeah I thought the viper was credits

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