Monday, July 30, 2012

K-12 Panther



K-12 Panther


K-12 Panther (Agility), based on Tomcat, costs 30 coins
Missile Reload 6% - 1st in class
Agility 6% - Same as Falcon

This is a lower level agility class plane for the bargain price of 30 coins.  The only thing that really makes this plane unique is the missile reload boost which is a first for an agility class plane.  Overall though, this is a lower level agility class offering and not all that exciting.   Goose and Maverick again are disappointed - not exactly Top Gun material..

This plane has also been added to the Comparison Guide  and also to the Fleet at a Glance - check it out!

121 comments:

  1. 1st finally haha wish they would of had panther when I started playing

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  2. Titan looks awesome interested to see full stats

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  3. Can we purchase them now by modifying some files by iFile??

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  4. After seeing the stats, I had planned to get the Titan if it looked good. I refrained from looking at the leaked previews so it'd seem more "new" when (and if) I buy it, but then I saw them here :( oh well.
    It looks quite nice from here though. I might get it after all.

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  5. Just bought the titan through the new international trick, it kinda sucks... Needs better lock speed and agility...

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    1. How can i use the international trick?

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    2. Obviously. Just trying to attract attention.

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  6. Panther looks interesting.
    Hmm I'm weapons class pilot, but it's only 30 blue coins... so why not? lol
    Seeing how good an annihilator could be, Panther looks even better.

    For Titan, it's basically Liberty with lock speed switched to armor.
    Missile tracking should have been something like agility to be competitive in dog fights in my opinion. Or maybe even lock speed if using coin missiles =P.

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    1. its 30 coins to buy, you still have to upgrade it

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    2. Sure, I know that.
      You could buy a better(?) stat plane without upgrade (180-205 coins) or buy Panther and fully upgrade it (30+162 coins).

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    3. Yeah...buy a thresher 0+162 coins=better stats.

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  7. Sighh... More planes. Z2, stop releasing planes and fix the lag already!

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  8. pilot's watch out for this guy gc I.CANT.B.BEAT! his a fucking cheater. fly a fa-88 hurricane equip w/ lancer. his hurricane can zoom in and out faster than anybody plane uve seen! can wipe the shit out of u beating you 15-0 or more than that! his style he'll make the most win and then laylow till u made a kill w/ him. and then go on rampage again!

    HIs real name is COREY SMITH w/ blackout profile pics!

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    1. What do you mean by blackout profile pics? I met a person with blacked out name, and weapons. Is that him?

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    2. black, dark, was, nothing on a pilot icon!

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    3. I think I played that guy, he beat me 25-0, 1 HIT KILLS!!! Watch out for him indeed...

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    4. I must have pissed him off since he couldn't beat me. I beat him twice and drew once. I was flying the reaper. What were you all flying?

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    5. Ah, I played him too...instantaneous Lancer hits...I quit after the 3rd death, after figuring out it wasn't lag.

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    6. I was flying a Reaper, but re-spawned in far off positions. So much for the better spawn position fix!

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    7. Corey smith is me

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  9. I played him using my reaper with standard weapons and he was flying the hurricane with Valkyrie and lancers and I beat him 2-1. He was tough but beatable. My SR is 13k and some change. The trick is to out maneuver him which you can do in a reaper. What plane were you flying?

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  10. If there is a international trick which country is it?

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    1. There is. But regions are not the the key anymore and who knows it doesn't wanna tell.

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    2. How do you know that?

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    3. Because "iknowthetrick :)" posts pics of unreleased planes and I tried all of the region formats but none of them work.

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  11. Which is the key?

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    1. The one that will open your door.

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  12. Why no one has the courage to publish the new trick? We don't care if it is illegal or if it needs jailbreak or every other methods! so please SHARE!

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    1. Because the few ones who know wanna stay the FEW ones who know.

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  13. Changing the calendar is the first step

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    1. So you know the trick, bro?

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    2. No I don't know the trick but people say its the first step

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  14. In 3-4 hours these planes will be featured

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  15. They are out!!! Who gets the Titan please let us know if it is a beast as it looks.

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  16. Got it. Did a vs with a RW 25K SR him with bis me araams her got me 4-2. Couldn't dose those darn bisnovats.

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  17. I have a screenshot of a player with blacked out name, skill, and pilot icon. Is this the I.CANT.B.BEAT hacker? If so, should I report him to z2 and how? (see link)
    db.tt/0OdeBaBM

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  18. I have a screenshot of a player with blacked out name, skill, and pilot icon. Is this the I.CANT.B.BEAT hacker? If so, should I report him to z2 and how? (see link)
    db.tt/0OdeBaBM

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  19. Was his GC name I.CANT.B.BEAT? If it was, then YES, that's him/her.

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    1. His GC name was blacked out too (see link)

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  20. do it no need for it in game.

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  21. I don't like how Z2 favors Weapon class planes. They make it more apparent each time they release a newer better weapons class plane.

    If you add up the stats for a fully upgraded Weapons class plane (without individual plane stat bonuses), they beat out Defense and Agility class by a lot:

    Base stats (without individual plane bonuses):

    Weapon : 489
    Defense: 419
    Agility: 401

    A base weapons class plane out-'stats' Agi & Def by 70 & 88 points, respectively. With plane bonuses, it's still lopsided. The highest upgrade is the Titan with 74 % bonus.

    Highest stat bonus:

    Weapon - Titan : 489 + 74 bonus = 563
    Defense - Achilles : 419 + 68 bonus = 487
    Agility - Rath : 401 + 64 bonus = 465

    The Titan out-'stats' the Rath by a whopping 98 points! I'd love to see some Defense and Agility planes with 70% bonus points (which would still be lower than weapon class highest), let alone a def or agi plane that adds up to the weapon class stats. On average, weapon class planes are still much higher than the rest.

    Average total stat points:

    Weapon : 532.6
    Defense : 446.4
    Agility : 441.2

    No wonder the majority of players fly Weapon class planes, they get more BANG for their buck.

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    1. Quality and quantity are not the same thing. While weapons class has far more numbers in terms of upgrades, they favor weapons class stats of which are not that handy since damage and missile tracking really aren't that good if you never see your opponent in dogfight. Weapons class aircraft tend to find dominance in long range engagements (which last only seconds)- And little else- so it makes sense that they should have so many damage/lock range upgrades. Majority of the dogfight is close range, so it really isn't unfair despite the uneven tech upgrades. Lock range is handy for about 5 seconds, missile damage is only good if the missiles hit. Cannon damage is only handy if there is enough agility to find the enemy, or enough energy to do 10000 backflips. Meanwhile, agility class despite having less upgrade "points" has the benefit of agility which, from dodging missiles, to finding the enemy, is always handy- not just for the first 5 seconds. Weapons class can fire more missiles, but not more hits.

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    2. If you still feel otherwise, let's take this to the skies with me flying a u-9 raider

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    3. I don't get why you're talking about a 74% bonuses for the titan???

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    4. Not to nit pick too much, but defense class planes get 449 "points" worth of upgrades in the ladder, not 419. I have to concur though that all upgrades aren't the same. For example, a plane that gets improved damage actually gets it for both cannon and missile which are separate upgrades on the ladder (so how many of you out there fire both at the same time?). But I still don't see how that adds up to 74 for the Titan, I only figure 60.

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    5. The Titan then gets the following stat increase (or bonus):

      +8 Missile Tracking
      +13 Damage
      +14 Speed
      +12 Armor

      Damage adds +13 to both Missile Damage and Cannon Damage and Speed adds +14 to both Top Speed and Maneuver Speed, so essentially the Titan gets:

      +8 Missile Tracking
      +13 Missile Damage
      +13 Missile Damage
      +14 Top Speed
      +14 Maneuver Speed
      +12 Armor

      +74 TOTAL

      as for defense, I took the Temptest's stats in the comparison guide, added them up and subtracted the 5 points it gets in armor. Just checked my math and it adds up to 419 Base points for all defense planes...unless I'm doing something wrong.

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    6. OK, I had typed in a nice long reply, but it got lost in the bit bucket. Gotta remember to copy before I publish.

      Anyway, Speed boosts Top and Maneuver? Not sure, the Definitions page has the same definition for both. But nearly 2/3rds of agility class planes get this boost, so yay for them if so.

      And your math is good, the table is bad. It's missing 20% Damage Reduction while Armor is < 35% and 10% Increased Damage while Energy is > 75%.

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  22. Nah because weapon is the easiest to fly and make their nooby bisnovats more effective

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  23. So what you're saying Z2 needs to make agility class better?
    How's this?
    +12 Damage
    +15 Evasion
    +6 Energy
    +10 Speed

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    1. That's not an Iron Fang. Janko's plane would have higher evasion and damage bonus over missile tracking and critical strike...totally different plane.

      The Iron Fang adds up to 448 total % points, Janko's stats would put his plane at 467. This would be highest in agility, but it's still lower than any Weapons class plane.

      For example, the weapons class plane with the lowest total stat points is the Wraith/Thunderbolt with a total of 501 points.

      It would be awesome to get an agility plane that had a total of 501 points...

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    2. I don't understand why you keep using "points". Like I said, quality and quantity are not the same. +10 lock range is beneficial for 5 seconds, while agility, is beneficial for the entire versus mode match- from dodging missiles, to finding the opponent in a dogfight. Having an agility class aircraft with 501 "points" would make the game unbalanced.

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    3. Reading what you said anonymous i just got mind F***** :( but i guess I'm wrong?

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  24. Let's change the damage to Agility +12

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    1. I don't think we need more planes. I suspect it might be because z2 is busy building new planes, that they are holding back on new landscapes, campaigns, and other new features. I feel that z2 is making Better and better planes, and I don't think making the plane with the stats you wrote will help stop it. Compared to the iron fang, it has better evasion (disappointing to iron fang pilots), better agility, and speed just 2% less. If z2 really had to make a new plane, I would prefer if it was like this instead-
      + 11 damage
      +9 evasion
      +10 agility
      +8 energy

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    2. That would lower the total points of the plane to 454, making it 'closer' to the Iron Fang than before.

      Aiming for the LOWEST weapon plane total of 501, it would have to have a total of 100 bonus points...that's how lopsided Z2 made things.

      To get 501 total points, it would have to be something like:

      +14 Damage
      +13 Speed
      +10 Energy
      +20 Evasion
      +16 Agility

      and that's just to even things out with the LOWEST weapons class plane.

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    3. What good is lots of damage if you don't even see your enemy as an agility class aircraft swerves on your six o' clock?

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    4. Michael is right, different parameters have different value and sensitivity. Give me a plane with total 100 Speed, 100 Missile Reload, 50 Lock Range and 50 Agility (total 300 points) and I could easily beat any player in any of the current planes.

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    5. I want a plane using the body of the dragon or the mako with a dull paint job with the following stats
      +14 Agility
      +10 energy
      +12 speed
      +10 evasion
      I would pay a maximum of 300 coins for it but if it's impossible then i would like the following stats below
      +7 evasion
      +5 speed
      +2energy
      For 65 coins

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    6. if its agility class its just another thresher on sterorids... -_-

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    7. hellslayer, thats practically a saratoga, just a few percents off

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  25. @MI©HAEL

    Of course, the most important stat of all is 'pilot skill'. I'm just looking at a purely statistical point of view, not taking skill into consideration and of course, not taking armament into consideration. A skilled pilot can take any high stat and fully utilze it to their advantage. I've played pilots flying Wartusks that outflew me in my Maurader.

    There are some Weapon class pilots out there that can overcome the disadvantage of agility and use their Damage to their advantage.

    I don't want more planes either. I was just pointing out the inequality in types. And the flaw in attributes, they have too many.

    I'm not calling you out on your skills man...I don't play enough and I suck. I haven't mastered the bitcho/prancer swerve to dodge them.

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    1. What's more unfair is probably agility class aircraft armed with bisnovates. If you fly weapons class, you cannot out maneuver the agility class aircraft, and nor can you dodge the incoming bisnovates (very hard). Unless you are very skilled, most likely, you will be beat. I would say that, if you exclude the coin missile pilots, and the hackers, the game is reasonably fair - agility class aircraft can outmaneuver weapons class aircraft in close range engagements, while weapons class aircraft will out-gun the opponent in a long range engagement. Of course, like you said, the most important stat is still "pilot skill"'

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  26. Anyone who has bought the Titan, can you tell me if the Titan has a weird gun sight like the Cyclops? I mean the gun sight is placed higher than normal.

    And how about the gun sight of the Warlord? Thanks!

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    1. Not that serious like Cyclops, but still a little bit highter than normal. Titan still is not very easy to control.
      Warload is much better, Flying Warload didn't cause me much trouble.

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    2. I guess you meant Warlock. But yeah Im doubting the titan just because i have the warlock

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    3. Does the Warlock have a normal gun sight?

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    4. Yes. Titan too, although someone said it doesn't.

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    5. So only the Cyclops and Ares have a weird gun sight, right?

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  27. I don't play this game at all this game=spammers new planes beat previously released planes cheaters impossible to dodge missiles because of lag and I miss MSO I have moved onto Sky Gamblers Air Supremacy ;D

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    1. I agree with everything you said, and I'm thinking about switching. How is Sky Gamblers Air Supremacy? I've heard it's a lot harder, and more complex- is that true?

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    2. Yep I have tried it and it is a lot harder. More realistic IMO but a lot harder and there's not much diversity plane's design

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  28. Why is there a plane same as the original planes?

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  29. Is there any way to record videos of versus mode matches for reference purposes? I want to improve my agility class tactics. Are there any videos online of aces?
    ...please reply

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    1. yes, yebisu's channel his up to date for newer plane's, it's a lot on youtube for those ppl who got a jailbroken device using display recorder.

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    2. https://www.youtube.com/user/yebisu1980

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    3. Hi Michael,

      to answer your question :
      In my opinion  there would be 3 options  :)


      OPTION 1

      Lowest cost  - or the "for fun" - way to record your gameplay

      Pls note this though, this is a wired method, and you would have to play the game on an  iPad II or iPhone 4s   for the output to be displayed on a monitor :  Even i-pod touch 4th Gen does not display any output. here's what you gonna need 

      i.)   apple digital av adapter - costs $39 bucks
      II.)  HDMI Cable 
      iii.)  Any Desktop Monitor ( just be sure there is a hdmi input )
      iv.)  an external camera that points at your screen and records while you play - 
             • an IP Camera that costs approx $30 can deliver Good enough recording quality 
               




      OPTION 2

      Higher Cost -  Wireless  - I have not tried this cos don't have a Apple TV or HDMI TV , 
      though from what I've read this  should work

      i.)   Apple TV
      II.)  HDMI TV
      iii.)  A Recorder - A high tech HDMI tv recorder maybe ?  I'm sorry, I'm assuming about the HDMI  TV recorder 




      OPTION 3 

      Let's just call this method the professional method 
      - though if you do to endure this  
      I seriously hope you have technical knowledge. 
      loads and loads patience, a high threshold for pain :-)

      Look into digital capture cards : for example :

      • Haupauge HD PVR's
      • Avermedia HD DVR's 

      Keywords to search : Capture Cards, C127, C874  

      that's all my limited knowledge has to offer , I hope it helps  ... Almost forgot !


      If there is anyone - with experience and knowledge - Please share - feel free to correct my mistakes ... Thanks


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  30. Yebisu sucks. He's not an ace but an average player
    I've got a display recorder of app store

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    1. Over 36K and less than 57K.

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    2. Is it just me or does the Panther look like a Reskinned Juggernaut ?

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    3. Yebisu has over 50,000 Skill Rating and NO, he doesn't suck. Janko, it was rude of you to say that, Yebisu is more than an average player but a dedicated player who spends a lot of money to make videos for us to watch. An average player is one who hasn't learnt much about no-locks and will sometimes use coin weapons. Yebisu is more than that. He is dedicated and skilled. Think before you post anything stupid.

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    4. aya yay.... :) say sorry florovic, say my apology.... pls. forgive me :)

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    5. Are you jealous Florovic?

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    6. Well, I saw his videos, and I must say I expected more from a 51k pilot: He is always out of energy (in saratoga's video he flipped 6 times in 15 seconds) and he gets pwned for this, Stan is only 6k more (I think) and he is veeeery better. Maybe I don't remember well but I have almost never seen him doing a no-lock hit. A good thing about him is that he uses all classes of planes (like me :-)).

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  31. Is the Panther any good and worth buying???

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  32. I have only Weapons class aircrafts MRAD type (Missile Reload Agility Damage), in fact I have Hawken, Red Widow and Warlock (not Warlord of Warload) and I'd like to know if Missile Tracking is valuable. I versed a guy flying it and I tested myself: its armor can handle at least 1 or 2 more missiles from another Weapons class. I calculated that its top linear speed should reach about 3410. And the Damage doesn't make difference since only 6% more damage doesn't make that much difference compared to my Warlock. Pease, can who owns it, reply to this comment saying if him/her really feel the extra Missile Tracking?

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    1. Of course I refer to the Titan.

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    2. The vertical stabilizer is too large on the Titan.. It can get in the way of the gun sight.

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    3. I have the same question Skyraza. Someone please give a feedback on the Titan please!

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    4. Skyraza did you get the Titan??

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    5. I did it some hours ago, I upgraded it 3/5 (it misses 12% missile damage, 15% cannon damage,6% damage increased when energy is more 85%, 12% missile tracking and 14% cannon cooldown) and I just went on a match against a 61k pilot (I'm 14k) flying a liberty with raams and banshee and the match ended 1-1, If I had had 10 more seconds I'd have blown him up. When it missed 8% missile damage and 10% cannon damage more I versed a sentinel (27k SR) and one of his missiles hit me as I was manuvering: It dealed about 1/8 of my armor and the match ended like the one I told above. When I'll have more damage all the matches like these ones will be won. I will be able to tell more when it will be more upgraded. By the way, beast plane.

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  33. SU-34 (Agility Class)
    Which of these 3 is better
    +8 Missile Reload
    +10 ****
    +14 Agility
    +12 Speed
    *****
    A) Energy
    B) Stealth
    C) Evasion

    Reply which one you think would be better and WHY IT WOULD BE BETTER?

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    1. Srealth= pointless, Evasion= overpowered, so energy but it would be similar to spectre.

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    2. You´re putting the raptor stats lol. Energy better but it is stealth right?

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    3. D) stop making new planes, fix the bugs, and add some new landscapes and campaign missions.

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    4. I think that this would be a good agility plane.
      Model is unsure but it has to look good :P
      +8% Missile Tracking
      +12% Stealth
      +14% Agility
      +12% Speed
      It will be a first for stealth on agility planes, and will make it slightly harder for weapons to lock onto. This plane is a mix of all classes, because of the agility and speed for agility, missile tracking for weapons and stealth for defence.

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    5. Stan the Man, and Janko Florovic,

      Why do you all want more planes? We already have several dozen, and I don't think we need 3 new coin planes every week. The plane of your suggestions is what I would expect z2 to do as z2 continues to make more and more planes- with better and better stats. I personally want some more campaign missions, and game play modes rather than releasing dozens of new planes with stats each one better than the other. Banning out the hackers, and fixing the lags would be nice to. There's a reason why people are switching to Sky Gamblers Air Supremacy, and as far as I'm concerned, it's not because of the lack of planes.

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    6. Okay, my bad. I guess so. Your words are persuasive. But if they don't make new planes, they might have to release old planes. And I don't want any more people buying the Spectre.

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    7. I don't own the spectre...but what's wrong with it?

      I think fixing the LAG should be their top priority...I HATE IT. I usually quit a match if the lag is bad.

      I know it pisses people off, but what kind of a match will it be if the lag is so bad that the opponents plane is teleporting from spot to spot.

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    8. I have the Spectre and I don't want any more noobs purchasing it.

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    9. Think of it this way- the more unskilled pilots flying the spectre, the more you will stand out. On the other hand, z2 should just screw the featured plane idea, and focus on what matters-fixing bugs, new landscapes, campaign missions... However, I doubt this will happen as if you've seen the metalstorm wingman site, many people just keep on suggesting new planes, and unless they make better and better stats, they won't get much profit from this. I really don't mind if they require $0.99 to unlock new campaign missions, as long as I know the profit is used for something that matters (not making more and more planes, with better and better stats)- if people are switching to SGAS, it is apparent they don't mind paying a little for a good game, so why not take advantage of that? : )

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    10. I definitely do not mind spending money on a game that I know I'll get some good times out of. I however, do not like if I'm going to continually dump money into a game that is buggy and pushes you to spend more money.

      If I'm going to spend $20+, I'd rather use that to buy a console game. I don't think it would be worth it for an App.

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  34. They are going to release the old planes anyways, so what difference does it make?

    As for making more money (which is what Z2 is doing by releasing more planes) is offer skins for the existing planes. I thing that would add a bit of personalization and allow them to make more money.

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  35. Why get angry when Z2 release new planes. Look there are some people that can't afford a better plane and are happy flying c101 dont see point of buying them if you don't want to buy them

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    1. Because, not only is it annoying, but considering all these bugs, lags, and hackers around, z2 should have better things to do than to keep on releasing better and better planes.

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  36. If you play me you will know why I said yebisu sucks, I like his videos and by watching how he plays I can say he make big mistake like turning to right and rolling to the left

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    1. Won't be saying that when I beat you, now will you?
      GC
      [FF] Laurelix

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    2. Bring it. I'll add you, will play you later. Please use credit or stock weapons. I will fly my Spectre with Phoenix and Vulcan.

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    3. Have you accepted the request?

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  37. Turn to right and roll left leaves you with waste of energy and time

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    1. Depends on what you're trying to do. Sometimes, it helps to turn right and roll left.

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  38. Man... Just saw the sky demon... It is wayyyy overpowered. It's a fricking bomber for christs sakes, man!!!!

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    1. even worse, it's a bomber with no missile stats which would make sense in mswm for a B-2

      mu5ko

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  39. Stan the man or floor tell me who won that fight I'm very curious also friend me I regularly fly the striker but also have the iron fang warlord condor and marauder

    Celt1c sa1nt

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  40. Stupid spell check floro sry bout that

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