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| Poll - Should Bisnovats be Banned? |
The results are in from the week long poll. 61% of voters would like Bisnos banned or all coin missiles banned. The rest like their Bisnos, with an amazing 14% wanting even MORE lethal missiles.
This goes to show you that there still are alot of pilots out there hiding behind their Bisnos. Just remember, real men (and women) use stock weapons and RAAMS!
Lancers = Prancers
ReplyDeleteMeteors = Metewhores
Vymples = Whimpels
Bisnovats = Bitchnovats
Nice!
DeleteLOL!
DeleteWant to know my view?
DeleteLancers: fuckers
Meteors: fuckers
Vympels: fuckers
Bisnovats: and... fuckers
Very nice I once beat a bitchnovat spammer and he sent me a game centre friend request saying You're a cheat I sent him a message saying that's life you have no skill when someone owns you you bisnovat
DeleteMan my iPhone has typing corrections and deletes the last part of my comment
DeleteThe last part is owns you with bisnovats
DeleteNiiiice man! So smooth...
DeleteI hate those spoiled brats who put way too much money into the game and have bisnovats and lots of dominating planes- it is true that the best Players have Raams and other cheap missiles and the poofs just spend lots of money just so they can unfairly win.
ReplyDeleteI use my thresher or my hawken with the budget missles and I can normally pwn most other Players...
Same...especially those hackers using free shop
DeleteI don't really care... I'll I care about now is SGAS
ReplyDeleteWill you ever play metalstorm again or comment on this blog
DeleteIdk I just caught up with things... I'll always come back to metalStorm but sgas very close 2nd
DeleteI haven't played anyone with budget missiles in almost a week. I had one player (Hawken/bitchnovats) try to friend me with "IM TOO MUCH FOR YOU" after he beat me.
ReplyDeleteIt's annoying...
U guys suck. Just get the mod and have unlimited ammo. Thats what I do... Unlimited Bisnos and Voodoo
ReplyDeleteWhat likely sucks is your flying skills - with unlimited Bisnos, I doubt that you have any
DeleteI'd love to see you last in Air Sepremacy no cheating weapons and you have to unlock your planes in other words little cheating bitches like you won't last get some real skills
Deletei saved up for ages and used tapjoy. i got the spectre and fully upgraded it. i can dodge bisnovats with about 95% success rate. two bisnos will kill me, so i think it would be unfair to have a more powerful missle. AT LEAST 2 missiles should be required to hit to kill.
ReplyDeleteI use the green coin cannon (+20 damage) and missles (the white ones)
i dont care about bisnovats, its the Vampels and MBDA Medeor
ReplyDeleteNever encountered a vympol, and I beat the last guy I fought who was using meteors
DeleteI'll use whatever gives me the best advantage of blowing your butts out of the sky. You religious freaks with your mitionary only style of weaponry can swim around in circles until your wrists develop cysts for all I care. I want hard driven action and I wanna blow shit up as quick as I can period. Unlike you pukes I didn't have a normal childhood where mommy tucked me in every night so take your liberal even playing ground and ramm it up your pretty pink panties. BizNos 4 life suckaz!
ReplyDeleteDon't get mad homeboy. We just want to make you understand that it is 100% more pleasing to blow up your ennemy with credits missiles 'cause it truly demonstrates your superiority. That's all.
Delete"I'll use whatever gives me the best advantage of blowing your butts out of the sky." Sure, we can understand that desire.
Delete"You religious freaks with your mitionary only style of weaponry" And thats why I say extremist athiests are the same as extremist thesists: Stupid.
"can swim around in circles until your wrists develop cysts for all I care" And why is there a need to swim in circles (it is called dogfighting, in case you haven't noticed)? Simple, because anything else results in death. If coin missiles were screwed, defense class aircraft could boost away, forcing the other classes to follow and attempt to shoot them until their energy runs out, and then the defense class fighter keeps going away, then backflipping and screwing their foes. Similar case with weapons class, which would be the middle ground. Should weapons classes find a agility, it becomes the defense class. Should they find a defense class, they become the agility class. The game becomes much more fun.
"I want hard driven action and I wanna blow shit up as quick as I can period." And ensure that skill is useless. Play Darkorbit, and get full elite by paying $2500. There, you have your action, in full.
" liberal even playing ground and ramm it up your pretty pink panties. BizNos 4 life suckaz!" Liberal: Seeking Change. Conservative: Believing change is bad. Trying to take American politics into this eh? BisNoz are boring. Period.
Lol. The fact you took that much time to analyze my 30 second stoned rant is fair play to you sir. All comedy I don't even have some of those views. Just trying to stir the pot. I will say dog fighting is fun and I do enjoy it, but I like to biznos the bastards who hate them just for that particular reason. For you guys to say to me what is fun and what isn't is just ignorant. Let's face it most of you don't play biznos because you can't afford it. I bet 90% of you that's the case so being once again slightly privileged is a sin In your eyes and the best part of all the biznos haters, is 99.9% of you all fly agility planes lolololololol and then complain about fire power cheating. Double standard and in the grand scheme of things who gives a ritcheous F what anyone flys or how they fly. It's a game people and how you have fun is how you have fun I don't judge. Next thing you will tell me is my girl can't have an abortion cause it's just not the right thing to do. Hahahaha. Weirdos
DeleteSo? I like to analyse things with clear arguments, despite the fact that this is the internet.
DeleteHow do you determine who hates and who doesn't anyways?
While just blowing everything out of the sky effortlessly with no competition may be fun some times, I prefer having to use skill.
As for the can't afford, more like not allowed to buy lolz. I perfer using my tapjoy blue coins to get plane upgrades instead.
Being privilaged is not a sin in my eyes, but bisno spamming? Seriously? On the other hand, I faced this guy who didn't spam bisnos and instead used them sparringly and it was much more fun.
Now, why do we fly agility planes? Because it happens to practically be the only aircraft that can survive a bisno Macross Missile Massicare. How is it double standard? The enemy chooses to use epic missiles so we choose to use aircraft that can dodge said missiles. If said epic missiles weren't used, then even defense class becomes a viable option for VS.
I don't really give a crap about what missiles the enemy uses to be honest. If the use bisnos then it is a lesson on avoiding them. No problem there.
Yes it is just a game. This argument can be used in so many different ways that it has lost its meaning. It is just a game, so why bother to argue over it. It is just a game, so why bother to make a blog about it. It is just a game, why bother to type about it? It is just a game, why aren't you doing something more productive? Exactly.
There is a fine line between making the game a wallet warrior game and making the game a skills game. Most people prefer a game where skills and brains are needed over wallet warrior games. Bisnos happen to cross that line. What fun is there spamming them anyways? Might as well go on autopilot, but hey, each to their own interests.
No clue what " spamming missiles" even mean. I assume your saying there is a way to get them free. Anyways not like $100 bucks a month gonna kill me. I gave up WWC for this game so saved a lot of money there. I spent prob 5k on that game. Lol. My therapist says its better than hookers and blow. I am not sure I agree. Moving on, I think there is tremendous skill involved playing any aircraft. I don't have a 3700 skill rating because of biznos. I get my ass kicked all the time with standard bad ass flyers and vice verse. In fact I fly standard sometimes to cause its fun. My whole point is I have fun with all the ways I play and don't judge anyone for their shit. When you get older you will realize women like all sorts of positions and for people to tell me how to fuck reminds me of the most famous bully in history and we all know how he went
DeleteAs for the spammers, I mean the people who just splatter the sky with bisnos and aren't smart with them. I don't quite comprehend why anyone would spam expensive missiles, but whatever. They may have a cheat or not, that doesn't really matter.
DeleteAs for the other thing, that is really between you and them. With VS mode in MSW, it is more like saying that you will do that before you even know the person.
People just don't like Bisnos cuz they can't afford them. I have a constant stock of Meteors and I've never paid a dollar.
DeleteGunninator2000: your a grade A; dumcrap, nimrod, and jerk! go play some other game that requires no skill whatsoever, and that can make you happy. Spammer. I, on the other hand like to use skill, and standard issue weapons to beat/lose to, my opponents. --AaronJC56 (game center nickname)
DeleteIf this wasn't an old topic, I'd love to back DarkWarriorJ with a few Short Angry Essays. Basically all of Gunninator2000's arguments are invalid.
DeleteIf your idea of "hard driven action" is sitting at home rubbing your phone you really do have issues. It's just a game dude,just messing around for fun. And I didn't have a regular kind of childhood either and I certainly aren't religious!
ReplyDeleteI love my a-17 paladin due to its excellent missle reload speed, it's great lock speed, and it's awesome armor. However, when facing a spectre with lancers, I'm dead. I can't dodge the lancers in a long range engagement, and the spectre just dodges all my missles. As I move into a dogfight, my jet is just not agile enough, and within seconds, I'm dead. I've tried ever strategy I the book... What should I do? Are their any awesome strategies to use? And by the way, I am not buying bitchnovats- aka bisnovates no matter what, and I can't afford the spectre because I bought the a-17 paladin... Not buying the thresher... Looks like crap
ReplyDeleteLiberty will kill you also..
DeleteYou have Good Cannon Ability ... If you can manage your plane with Agility , you can Cannon Blast any weapon Plane.. You have a Good Plane BUT not the best. AS there are NO Best Planes.. Just Best Skills and To capitalise on Competetions weaknesses.
BITCHNOVATS can be tricked With Agility as well. TRy rolling , Flipping and shorter Turns.
What is the new DMG resistance on the arbiter? Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt that just a different description of armour, which it already has
ReplyDelete* it's #stats.damagereduction now
ReplyDeleteI am confused!
ReplyDeleteI faced someone called "dancing with a star"- he had both bisnovats and a green eagle. I used my trusty hawken and Raams and for the first match I won 2-1, second match was 1-0 to me and the last match was 1-1. He accused me of hacking, even though I would never do such a thing- hacking is for people who fail and need to modify the game to barely win.
His skill level was 12000+ and mine is 4200 ish.
Coincidence? I think not!
Lol he sounds shit!
DeleteI was one of the lucky ones to get a fully upgraded green eagle it takes 8 consecutive RAAMS to get put down I tested to by just not doing anything and I rarely lose and when I do my SR goes down by -24 cause it 7000+ but I find it kinda unfair and boring so I now bought the spectre and I use my red widow and reaper
DeleteI've done something similar once... it was practically my only weapons class VS kill too lol. That guy with the eagle sucked!
DeleteI was thinking that without bisnos, weapons and defense classes would be totally obsolete in a 1v1, but after careful consideration.... quite the opposite... If coin missiles weren't allowed and maybe even going as extreme as weakening all of the missiles happened, then agility class would dominate in a dogfight, but the defense and offense classes could boost continuously away in one direction openning a gap between them and the agility class aircraft soon won't catch up due to the low amount of energy it has. The defense class continues to open the hole, and then backflips to meet the agility class that has no energy and/or is far away, barraging them with missiles. Maybe giving defense classes more damage resistense would help, but IDK.
ReplyDeleteThe above idea is just a thought that is likely to be flawed.
The agility class planes would easily be able to catch then up and destroy them as lon as they are at the same sort of upgrade level, they can go full out for quite a while
DeleteI'd like to see better re-spawn location logic. What I mean is, when I'm using my Maurader (agility), I get obliterated with 2 blue-coin missiles. The server re-spawns me again far away from my opponent. I get blown away again before I can speed my way over to my opponent. rinse...repeat...
ReplyDeleteI consider myself lucky if the server puts me near my opponent. In which case, I have a chance to at least get 1 kill.
When I play my weapons class, it does the opposite, it usually puts me near the opponent...
I'd like to see the server use some logic and if I'm getting blown out of the sky within 10 secs of respawn, it would re-spawn me in a better position. This would even things out and make things a little more exciting (2 hit kills are boring). It would also give non-blue-coin missile users a chance against bitchnovats and the like.
I use stock weapons, so maybe that's Z2s way of 'pushing' me to buy blue-coin weapons...
Dynasty is now out!
ReplyDeletethanks for posting this! it's so true... but to all of you: isn't it a great feeling to win against one of these bisnovats-fuckers? you should earn extra points for that. whoever spends "real money" for this game is a sore looser.
ReplyDeleteI have Voodoo cannons and Meteors, and I've never spent any money on the game. I have a method of earning free coins. It's pretty easy. Just watch the videos and click "earn free coins" at the bottom.
DeleteJ-35 Dynasty is available, check it out!
ReplyDeleteI'm still debating on whether to get the Reaper or the Dynasty...
ReplyDeleteThe gun stats look great, but I don't use guns as much now, since it seems like the majority of players are using blue-coin missiles and bullrunning.
I think my coins would be better spent on the Reaper's speed....which should help avoid those Bitchnovats and Wimpels.
I Missed out on the Spectre. I didn't have enough coins to buy it.
You need to stop calling people that spend money on this game "sore losers"
ReplyDeletethese so called "sore losers" are the one keeping this game alive(those dev. need to income in order keep the server for you to play....
If you can beat these "spenders" with bigger and badder missiles/planes GOOD FOR YOU!, if you can't go GET BETTER and stop crying or STFU
P.S. Not defending anyone....but that's my 2 cents
please put your 2 cents where we all think you should put them.
ReplyDeleteMeh...They make enough money to run the servers just by running ads...which they should remove, since you're pushed to pay for blue-coin upgrades anyways.
ReplyDeleteI'd be willing to spend 'real' money if their shit wasn't so freakin' expensive.
ReplyDeleteThey already make money on the stupid ads in the app.
And as much as they charge on this, they should have a better product...it's still buggy...
I've been playing for 2 weeks with the Annihilator and now the Reaper- fully upgraded. I'm getting better but I do get owned rather quickly by coin missiles. In any case, I've noticed that sometimes when the vs match starts, the enemy plane jumps almost from one side of the screen to the other (not in a dogfight, this is from distance). Is this a special maneuver or has the guy hacked the game and boosted his agility and speed? Also, I get hit with missiles on occasion just AFTER my opponent has passed me. How is he/she doing that?
ReplyDeleteIf anyone has any tips or can point me to a manual so that I can better play the game, it would be much appreciated. By the way, if you see someone continuing to turn down games, it's likely me. I can't get better and learn to fly if I'm being blown out of the sky in the first 3 seconds by a barrage of coin missiles from distance. I've tried speeding up and rolling at varying angles but most of the time if my opponent has an weapons plane with coin missiles, I'm basically handicapped from the get go. In the beggining, playing against lesser opponents I was able to win most all of these matches but now I'm finding I can only compete if the opponent has stock or Rams.
Thanks.
Oh...and I'm a 4400 skill level- so I can play, but definitely still in learning mode.
ReplyDeleteAnd I play with stock weapons. Sorry for the 3 separate posts.
ReplyDeleteI am fine with people who are using Bisnovats missile. Because I can still take them done, with reward items from each mission, especially the fourth one. The only thing that annoys me is, I sometimes hate to see weapon class play using Bisnovats, yes I am talking to Hawkins players. The competition with them is really a matter of luck, is really the distance between players at their starting point.
ReplyDeleteZ2 is never going to ban bisnos. Cheats are everywhere and they are the ones who make Z2 rich. When I searched 'metalstorm wingman' on google, half of the suggestions were about hacks and cheats.
ReplyDeleteGhost missiles!!!!!! I thought I was the only one having that problem. Just when I thought I got to the opponent fast enough to avoid getting blown out of the sky....BOOOOM!!!
ReplyDeleteYeah, I get hit with ghost missiles all the time. As I mentioned earlier, the product is STILL buggy.
I don't think it's a hack, but I may be wrong...
As for the teleporting opponent, I see that 80% of the time. The match begins, I see the plane on my right, so I start to turn right....then all of the sudden, the plane zooms over to the left. Annoying.
Z2 needs to figure out a better way of spawning you and your opponent. It would help make the game more interesting...I posted earlier about this.
I get hit by them too, especially when I'm in an agility plane, I fly past the opponent and then suddenly my health just drops. I think it's the lag......
DeleteTO EVERYONE WHO BITCHES ABOUT ME USING BISNOVATS!!!! Here's the deal... BISNO's are no more cheating than somebody using an UPGRADED aircraft which ALL OF U PEOPLE BITCHING SEEM TO BE SO FOND OF! I am SO fed up of me MURDERING people on this game, then I get the friend request "u wouldn't be shit without your bisnos" shut the FUCK up! Let me lay this out, first off, I use bisnos less than half the time, only when I feel like spending money, second off, I have a 93% win ratio, so FUCK OFF.. If bisnos should be banned, so should upgraded aircraft and machine guns... My upgraded plane helps me win WAY more games than my bisnos do, and I don't hear any of u fucking whiners offering to use stock aircraft along with ur ram missiles... And further more, I've played people using ram missiles who are EXTREMELY talented... I have been beaten even with my bisnos... If u were such skilled pilots, u could whoop anyone's ass no matter WHAT type of rockets they have... So either shut the fuck up and play the game ur way, and let everyone else play it their way... Or TRADE IN TOUR UPGRADED AIRCRAFT FOR A STOCK ONE, WITH STOCK WEAPONS AND THEN TALK TO ME! Seriously, the BISNOVAT argument is NOTHING but excuses for sore fucking LOSERS! So shut the fuck up! If u have any issues w my statement, than you're free to come disagree w me in the game, I am BILLYBOYDETROIT
ReplyDeleteTo BILLYBOYDETROIT - AMEN!! Couldn't have said it better. Personal experience has shown the more I fly the better I fight, regardless of what I fly or fire at my opponent. It's a dogfighting game dammit - winner lives, loser dies! (If this rubs some the wrong way then perhaps they should play something less intense.)
ReplyDeleteI think z2 should have more missiles that are similar in damage,tracking etc.
ReplyDelete@BILLYBOYDETROIT: spoken like a true bitchnovat brat..."I use bisnos less than half the time"...which would bring you down to a 45% win ratio if you didn't use them.
ReplyDeleteAnd you are right...you are MURDERING people in the game, because you're not actually beating them.
Between an Expert with a BB gun and a marksman with a shotgun, I'd put my money on the guy with the shotgun.
I have a 50% win ratio and I've never used a bitchno (or a blue-coin missile) in all my MSWM life...I had a much higher win ratio, 90%, when I would cancel games with blue-coin missile users, but now I play them...and I'm at 50%.....hmmmm....coincidence?
HOWEVER, I agree, I would love to go back to the point where there weren't these ridiculous airplane stats and the planes were more evenly matched.
How is it better fighting when you launch 2 missiles from far away to get a kill...that's ridiculously boring for both ends. No skills are learned by either opponent.
Sometimes I can't see my opponents missiles even when they are right in front of me-is that the ghost missiles that they/you were talking about?
ReplyDelete@Anonymous who called me a bisnovat brat... Let's get a few things clear my friend... I am not a fighter who shoots missiles at long distance, I am a Dog fighting KING, no matter WHAT kind of missiles I have... This is my entire point about how STUPID the bisnovat argument is... The missiles are in the game available for EVERYONE to use, yet you have this entire movement of idiots who bitch at the people who use them... I will say it over and over until the retards get it... THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN ME USING BLUE COIN MISSILES AND YOU USING BLUE COIN PLANES!!! Where do you draw the line... Of course you will argue that it's OK for you to use a super upgraded agility plane, however if you are playing somebody with a lesser plane who has Bisno's, THEY'RE the cheaters... YEA RIGHT! get real dude... And I will also make THIS point again... There are players who beat the shit out of all other players who use stock missiles. I have been killed by people who use stock missiles even when I use Bisno's... THESE are the truly skilled players, which means that if you're ACTUALLY good at the game, you will win no matter what, and only lose to a better pilot... I have NEVER lost a game simply because somebody had bisno missiles, SORRY... you people sound RIDICULOUS bitching about players using bisnovats because they are an option available for everyone... All it is is another lame excuse to make yourself feel better for losing, that's IT.. to me it's a joke... There will always be people who make excuses for why they suck, whether it's in real life, or in video games, and you are all amongst these people.. If you were REALLY a good pilot, you would win no matter what you were using.. And in case you didn't notice, I put my screen name in here so you can challenge me yourself and see, I didn't see your screen name FYI, lol, so you're pretty much confirming my point... Anybody who wants to see on whether or not I am actually a good player period, regardless of what missiles I'm using FEEL FREE to challenge me in the game, I am kind to everyone who doesn't blame it on missiles, I assure you we will be friends, but as soon as u make lame excuses to make yourself feel better for getting raped, then it's lights out... Don't be a sore loser, try losing with dignity for once in your life... BillyBoyDetroit
ReplyDeleteYou seriously need to use a little less "..." in your posts, my friend.
DeleteFirst of all, coin missiles ARE different from coin planes and coin upgrades. Coin upgrades and planes boost stats a little bit, but never ridiculously so. Then you get coin missiles, which boost stats by 60%-100% - Insane! The reason people don't like Bisnovats is because, when combined with lag, they are basically unavoidable, even in a top-notch Agility plane. Also, at 10 coins, Bisnovats are really quite expensive. My Thresher took 22500 credits to buy, then 10500 credits and 162 coins to upgrade. Yes, it took coins, sure. But only 162 of them. How many bisnos have you ever fired? Ten thousand? Twenty thousand? It's probably quite a lot more than you think it is. Ten thousand bisnos would cost about 667 coins- out of the park considering the 162 to upgrade a plane, and quite a lot more than you can earn through Tapjoy. Not all of us can afford our hard-earned money just to be powerful in an iDevice game.
My most important point, though, does not quibble over mere numbers and statistics. You said in your post "I am a Dog fighting KING, no matter WHAT kind of missiles I have..." if you are half the "Dog fighting KING" you say you are, you'd use RAAMs all the time, like I and most of the rest of those who hate bisnovats do. RAAMs are different than Sidewinders in that it is not devilishly hard to get kills on experienced players within the time limit, but they still require some skill to use, unlike bisnovats. If indeed you can beat anyone with stock or credit missiles, why would you waste your money on Bisnovats? Those will only spoil you and cause your skills to atrophy over time.
Finally, the game lag currently makes bisnos nearly impossible to successfully avoid, for when you do avoid them, they simply explode behind you and do their damage anyway. If this game were lag-free, I'm sure 90% of us would feel much differently about bisnovats and lancers. At the moment, though, your diatribe about those who hate bisnovats is out of line and based upon flawed logic.
I ran some numbers, and I believe I need to amend one of my above points. After your first big run, you can earn coins through Tapjoy at a rate of about 15 per day, subject to variability. Depending on how much you play and how many missiles you use per match, though, these 15 coins may or may not be enough to pay for your bisnovats. It takes an average four to five bisnovats to take down a Weapons or Defense plane (I'm leaving out Agility due to their comparative rarity), discounting cannon fire. If you score three kills per match at five missiles per kill, that's fifteen missiles per match. That would take ten matches that day to exhaust one round of bisnos, but this is assuming that you use your bisnos completely wisely and never miss, which is possible, even if it's extremely difficult for your target to make you miss by dodging. If you spam the sky with bisnos and use twenty or thirty every match, you won't have enough coins to keep that up.
DeleteThe verdict is that if you are skilled with your bisnos, tapjoy might be able to support you sustainably. But if you are skilled, why not just use credit missiles?
Lancer= cool
ReplyDeleteMBDA Meteor= Ok
Vympel= For noobs
Bithnovats= noobs, no skill, nigga
Phoenix= skill, not for noobs
RAAM= best missiles
BiillyBoyDetroit is right! I never looked at it like that until now but he is definitely right... I used to think bisnovats were for shitty pilots, but fuck that, I'm all in now! What's the point of not using them!?
ReplyDeleteA coward uses bisnovat...
ReplyDeleteI NEVER use coin missiles they're for cowards.
ReplyDeleteI tried out some Meteors that I won from Mission 5 once... my apologies to my victims. Those things were ridiculously powerful, and made the game a bit boring.
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